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On 07/07/2015 12:52 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote:
> For languages we have luckily many really fine ones now. I already told
> you that I will mostly concentrate on Nim for the near future. It is not
> much more difficult that Python, covers the whole range from low level
> kernel and bare metal development up to what is generally done with
> Python/Ruby/Java. And it is fast as C. But of course many other
> languages like Rust, Go, Crystal would be fine for EDA development too
> -- for me Rust seems to be more difficult.

  This sets off some alarm bells for me.  I'm a professional developer;
I write code every day and I like to stay on top of new research, and
I've never even heard of most of the languages you mentioned here.  I've
heard of Go, and Python, Ruby, and Java, of course, but Nim?  Crystal?
Rust?

  If I've never heard of them, I'm willing to bet that many other
potential contributors haven't either.

  Locking development into somoene's pet language that will likely
disappear into (further) obscurity in a year or two is not the way to
ensure the longevity of a software project.  Of course Python fell into
that category ~20 years ago, and it has gained massive popularity
(though I'll never understand why!)...realistically, that's a success
story that very few programming languages will emulate.

  And further (and I apologize if it sounds like I'm picking on you
here), rabid proponents of dozens of "pet" programming languages have
claimed them to be "as fast as C!!" for decades.  I didn't believe it
then, and I don't believe it now.

                -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA