X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <51C4E7B9.9040600@xs4all.nl> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 01:54:33 +0200 From: Bert Timmerman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110429 Fedora/2.0.14-1.fc13 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] 3D modelling and gEDA References: <51B6CDB6 DOT 1010909 AT estechnical DOT co DOT uk> <51B6DB0E DOT 8000108 AT prochac DOT sk> <51BBA5E7 DOT 4040006 AT prochac DOT sk> <1371329763 DOT 11314 DOT 10 DOT camel AT pcjc2lap> <4DFFE27A-47A1-41DB-98CC-490E1AB6085A AT jump-ing DOT de> <20130617012721 DOT 01e56f87 AT akka> <51C48E65 DOT 10508 AT prochac DOT sk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Evan Foss wrote: > Openscad is a good suggestion. The limitations with it go back to our > earlier part of the thread on BOT (Bag Of Triangles) and modeling vs > CAD. It does not truly understand curves. It would also require QT. > > As for BRL Cad's age. It has managed to hold onto it's google summer > of code participation. As to the user interface complaints many people > say the same thing about gEDA and we are not talking about using it > out right, we are talking about interfacing too it. > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > >> Evan Foss wrote: >> >> >>> Respectfully the freecad program is more like an interface to the >>> opencascade kernel. >>> >> This is actually a smart move. There have been quiete a few stalled >> trials to whip up an open sourced 3D CAD application from scratch. It >> takes just too much of an effort before the resulting binary is >> remotely usable for real life projects. >> >> >> >>> I don't think the freecad people could just code >>> a replacement because they suddenly felt like it. >>> >> They don't need to. There is openscad, which looks like a viable >> alternative. After all, this is a "GUI-less 3D modelling software". >> >> >> >>> Using freecad >>> which is totally depended on opencascade for this feature is >>> effectively adding opencascade as a dependency. >>> >>> Has anyone looked at BRL-Cad integration. They have API's and >>> import/export functions for most formats. BRL-Cad is totally open >>> source. >>> >> It is ancient to the point that its UI precedes the invention of the >> computer mouse. This still reflects in the interface. A few years ago, >> when I was looking for an open source mechanical CAD solution for a >> serious construction project, I gave brlcad a try. However, I was not >> able to do a cube with a bunch of holes after half a day spent on >> tutorials and getting started documents. In addition, STEP import is >> "still in its infancy" according to brlcad.org: >> http://brlcad.org/wiki/STEP_importer_improvements >> So a major ability, I'd really like to see from import/export to a 3D- >> mechanical CAD, is not ready for smooth use. I seem to remember I read >> the exact same wording on the state of STEP import back when I gave >> brlcad a try... >> >> -- >> Kai-Martin Knaak >> >> > > Hi, Please give https://github.com/bert/pcb/archive/LP699502.zip (10.5 MB) a test drive. Patches and opinions how to improve are welcome ;-) Kind regards, Bert Timmerman.