X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [geda-user] Find rat lines From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <201212140119.qBE1JjIP018442@envy.delorie.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 02:30:39 -0700 Message-Id: <32237613-4507-420E-97A7-19C5A72C45C0@noqsi.com> References: <20121204183305 DOT 6b04c0dc AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <20121208112649 DOT 388a9d22 AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <1355011808 DOT 19390 DOT 8 DOT camel AT localhost> <1355188647 DOT 12937 DOT 14 DOT camel AT localhost> <201212140010 DOT qBE0ABjV023762 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <172CCAAB-0423-43EF-8A04-5A9961F1D5B9 AT noqsi DOT com> <201212140119 DOT qBE1JjIP018442 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id qBE9Uidj018186 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Dec 13, 2012, at 6:19 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> To expand on my confusion, I cannot understand how this could be >> difficult given that pcb is supposed to create a geometric >> arrangement of conductors and insulators implementing a netlist. But >> I find pcb very confusing in general. I cannot actually find in its >> design the concepts of "conductor", "insulator" and "geometry". > > Your error is in the "is supposed to" assumption. > > The purpose of PCB is to help people design circuit boards. The purpose of PL/I was to help people write programs. Chaotic, confusing design prevented it from succeeding. It was designed by the smartest people IBM could get. It was still a flop. And C, with its emphasis on cleanly exposing the underlying hardware (*not* so much helping people to write programs), stole PL/I's lunch. Given a simple, comprehensible tool, people figured out how to use it to write programs without all those "helpful" PL/I features. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com