X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:35:09 +0100 From: Kai-Martin Knaak To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Find rat lines Message-ID: <20121211023509.552a4e29@akka> In-Reply-To: <35569664-3107-4F54-BD56-42EBEB7C0CD7@jump-ing.de> References: <20121204183305 DOT 6b04c0dc AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <20121208112649 DOT 388a9d22 AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <1355011808 DOT 19390 DOT 8 DOT camel AT localhost> <20121209164921 DOT 5acd2412 AT akka> <35569664-3107-4F54-BD56-42EBEB7C0CD7 AT jump-ing DOT de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/.eSr44YhuHqUIGpBKTuLe+L"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:Kqd/C/+/VLWUbh2ympnJWhYlo2qQdGdLqa3a0tOh3Yc nT/qzOSrbegfqtlSbdlA6TedrQjcor6H46ampBxujS8uMe+DUM wKGnIgNLwPu6jgNLYz621DUBIlI7TR6NXzyfDC40pL9psym5nw tNqkC9A1DbUDnFlKb0YyJIxQaqYec+2PmjUg9UIMCR78EuGMqP BqHkeVFLs1+DFt0H4k9a8Vus/YnmSXB9mHwwp+oW+zdRp5pYix /agZDPrhzYAvWyCMhtyEc7OfEephBL5cx6d8w4XGvRdTdtWfkB BaLOd53C07QbzT0tdUVQ2+ErH+ZAGcC5G2JpszcOouuy4HMTw= = Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Sig_/.eSr44YhuHqUIGpBKTuLe+L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Markus Hitter schrieb am 10. December 2012: > Do you guys never import a bunch of new or renamed components with (x)=20 > gschem2pcb? I usually set Settings->Import_New_Elements_at to "Crosshair" and click to some free space in the Viewport. I also habitually set the attribute "Set_Dispersion" to zero. That way, all new components land on top of each other. They don't scatter all over the place. BTW, do we really have to call the 2D patterns in a layout "components"? I get the impression that the rest of the world calls this collection of lines and polygons in copper and silk a "footprint". To them, a component is the three dimensional object soldered to the pcb.=20 > When I actually need the behaviour described above, I open the log =20 > window and hit O after about every change.=20 This calls for an (optionally) automated call. For some reason, I can't seem to find an "optimize-nets" action in the pcb manual. Is there none? Or am I just blind?=20 > Shorts can be seen at a =20 > glance, they produce more text that just a "x ratlines remaining". The user still has to be aware of this. Probably every new user must have taken hits by unnoticed shorts before he or she starts looking at the log window. In line with the principle of least surprise, I'd advocate for a more offensive warning in the form of a pop-up dialog. This dialog may contain an option to not show again at the current session. That way, it also plays nice with users who deliberately produce shorts while routing. The option should be settable in preferences, too. ---<)kaimartin(>--- --=20 Kai-Martin Knaak --Sig_/.eSr44YhuHqUIGpBKTuLe+L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlDGjc0ACgkQt9RkiGwLn1OwLgCghNbbvoA+sxi3V+A4FNxkW552 YSsAn0rQA2TpNLDt8d/od64NamipvPEg =cxyi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/.eSr44YhuHqUIGpBKTuLe+L--