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On 11/16/2012 03:43 PM, John Doty wrote:
>>> Fast development pace indicates immaturity.
>> 
>> It also indicates fast improvements.  The object here was to 
>> convince a guy who had tried gschem and PCB a few years ago, and 
>> hated the user interface, to give it another try because it had 
>> gone through significant improvements since then.
> 
> What, exactly, did he hate?

  The user interface.

> To me, gschem is a power tool with few problems, while pcb is
> unusable.

  To me, they're both just fine.  I use them nearly every day with great
success.

  For the new user (NOT "new engineer"), however, the user interfaces of
both programs have a pretty steep learning curve, where other competing
packages do not.  NOTE WELL that I am NOT comparing the relative "power"
(whatever that actually means) of the packages...I use gschem and PCB
for a reason...I'm talking about situations like this:

  "I want to start a new design.  I don't feel like bumbling along in
Windows, let's see what's out there for grownup platforms.  Hmm, gschem.
 EEEEW!  It'll take me a month to figure out this user interface!  I
have better things to do.  Mmmmm, Eagle has a free version..."

  Further...said with respect...I have to agree with DJ's pushback to
your earlier comments.  They are not constructive.  The developers who
work on gschem and PCB are highly competent; every bit as competent as
you and I.  Please stop insulting them by vocally and publicly assuming
that anything they do will automatically become a train wreck.  I, for
one, like their work.  So must you, at least to some degree, or you
wouldn't be here.

              -Dave

-- 
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA