X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:56:25 -0700 From: Andrew Poelstra To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Daughter's Science Fair Message-ID: <20120316195625.GB28072@malakian.lan> References: <20120316142719 DOT 26210 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <4F63506D DOT 90602 AT keensupport DOT net> <4F6354C2 DOT 10502 AT keensupport DOT net> <20120316150615 DOT 29273 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-12-10) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:26:15PM -0400, Bob Paddock wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Rob Butts wrote: > > So if I use a 1 watt 15k ohm resistor in series with the nail and an ac > > outlet that will give me 8ma alternating current and that should light the > > bulb? > > With no isolation transformer this is not a safe approach for > something in a Science Fair. > Anything connected to the AC Line always presents a electrocution > hazard when not isolated. > Currents of less than 8 mA across the heart could kill. > > Two identical transformers hooked up back-to-back will get you safety isolation. > > For example in the past 110 in 6.3V out transformers were common. > Hooking the two 6.3V sides together would get you isolated 110VAC out. If you're going to go to that trouble, you should probably just use the 6.3V out and light a smaller bulb. ;) In fact, if you rummage around your house, or garage sales, you can probably find a 9VAC-or-so wallwart that nobody is using anymore, and you can use the leads from that to get a safe AC source. -- Andrew Poelstra Email: asp11 at sfu.ca OR apoelstra at wpsoftware.net Web: http://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew "You shouldn't trust every quote you read on the Internet." -- Socrates