X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to djgpp-bounces using -f Lines: 103 X-Admin: news AT aol DOT com From: sterten AT aol DOT com (Sterten) Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp Date: 10 May 2004 12:25:42 GMT References: <20040510061645 DOT 07889 DOT 00000211 AT mb-m04 DOT aol DOT com> Organization: AOL Bertelsmann Online GmbH & Co. KG http://www.germany.aol.com Subject: Re: DJGPP and Windows XP Message-ID: <20040510082542.19729.00001207@mb-m10.aol.com> To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com DJ-Gateway: from newsgroup comp.os.msdos.djgpp Reply-To: djgpp AT delorie DOT com > From: sterten AT aol DOT com (Sterten) >> Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.djgpp >> Date: 10 May 2004 07:32:06 GMT >> >> When I boot DOS from disk, I can use djgpp in c:\e\djgpp. >> When I boot XP and use a dos-box, I get it in e:\e\djgpp, > Eli answered: >Sounds like the disk E: is not a real disk, at least not on the BIOS >level. What do you see if you open "My Computer" and right-click on >disk E:? I don't know how to open "My Computer" but I'm sure this e: is just the c: which I get with dos-boot. dos doesn't get the c: and d: whcih I get with XP. >Anyway, if you really need to run DJGPP both from DOS and from >Windows, well, not really. But it would be more comfortable than this permanent rebooting. >I'd suggest to set up 2 separate places for DJGPP, since a however that has the disadvantage that the programs will be scattered over 2 dirs. When e.g. I invoke them from batch, I don't know which path to give. Some of my old .batches will no longer work >dual DOS/Windows setup is tricky due to long file names, if nothing >else. I'm also a bit hesitant although these DOS-LFN utilities seem to work well. >If you don't have a real reason for booting into DOS, my >recommendation would be to invest your energy into creating a workable >Windows XP environment, by installing fixed binaries from the places >mentioned by Andrew Cottrell elsewhere in this thread. Once a >workable development environment is in place, you should have no >reason to switch back to DOS, except in very special cases. yes, let's see. I'm still adapting the system... >> >> 2. I can't get doskey and other utilities in Win-Xp >> > >> >That's strange: on the nearest XP box here I have doskey loaded into >> >the DOS box by default. >> >> when I use cmd.exe I have cursor-key functionality, but this mode is >> very incompatible. > >What's incompatible in that? Please tell the details. I find CMD >very convenient for interactive command-line work; it even has >TAB-completion, like Bash and other modern shells. I don't have many examples handy ATM (gcc,nasm,gwbasic,...), but about 50% of my old DOS-programs don't run. Some crash terribly. With Win98, about 95% of my old DOS-programs ran. >> >> 3. there are many incompatibilities with all sort of programs in Win-Xp >> >> I meant not necessarily djgpp programs - I couldn't yet compile >> any under XP - > >Same thing: to compile a program, you need to invoke GCC, the >compiler, which in itself is a DJGPP program. sorry, I don't remember the exact difference between "gcc" and "djgpp" (and if you tell me, I will probably forget it later again) >> >Get the recompiled binaries from Andrew Cottrell site (there's a link >> >from DJ's server), and you should be fine. >> >> don't know, what these are, sounds complicated... > >It's no more complicated than installing DJGPP itself. If you have that took me many hours. Also my djgpp-directory-path has >2000 files meanwhile and > 250MB. I have to copy it, since I don't want to risk overwriting it with the new files. >problems following the instructions, please ask specific questions, >and you will get help, including from Andrew himself. OK, TIA. Maybe later, (not today). >> google search took me to a page saying >> his files were no longer available due to copyright problems > >Andrew posted another message with specific URLs, which are guaranteed >to work. could have been another Andrew Cottrell which you get as 1st result from Yahoo-search