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> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 19:59:05 +0300
> From: "Ozkan Sezer (sezeroz AT gmail DOT com)" <djgpp AT delorie DOT com>
> 
> On 5/18/15, Eli Zaretskii (eliz AT gnu DOT org) <djgpp AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> >> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 19:13:12 +0300
> >> From: "Ozkan Sezer (sezeroz AT gmail DOT com)" <djgpp AT delorie DOT com>
> >>
> >> >> --- strtod.d.bak
> >> >> +++ strtod.d
> >> >> @@ -1,7 +1,6 @@
> >> >>  strtod.o: strtod.c ../../../../include/libc/stubs.h \
> >> >>    ../../../../include/locale.h ../../../../include/math.h \
> >> >>    ../../../../include/stdlib.h ../../../../include/sys/djtypes.h \
> >> >> -
> >> >> /usr/local/cross-djgpp/lib/gcc/i586-pc-msdosdjgpp/3.4.6/include/float.h
> >> >> \
> >> >>    ../../../../include/float.h ../../../../include/errno.h \
> >> >>    ../../../../include/ctype.h ../../../../include/inlines/ctype.ha \
> >> >>    ../../../../include/inlines/ctype.hp \
> >> >>
> >> >> As you see, -nostdinc does prevent compiler's own headers from being
> >> >> used. But with current cvs as it is, we are telling the compiler to
> >> >> do use its own headers: Not a good idea IMO.
> >> >
> >> > Are you sure the compiler doesn't use that header when it sees
> >> > "-nostdinc"?  Could it be that it just doesn't put that header into
> >> > the dependencies?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Joke, right?
> >
> > You mean, you are joking by asking whether I am?
> 
> This is ridiculous.

Why "ridiculous"?  You asked questions, so I'm trying to help you
figure things out.  You can ignore what I say if you think it's
irrelevant, or doesn't help you.  But this reaction of yours is just
plain rude, for no good reason (and not for the first time, either).
I'm trying to help you as best I can, I don't think I deserve this
attitude of yours, even if what I say sound preposterous to you.

> Did you even try to reproduce what I said?

Did you even care to ask if I can set that up, or have enough time to
do so?  Why should that be a prerequisite for trying to think aloud
about the problem _you_ are asking questions about?

Or if that _is_ a prerequisite, please say so loud and clear, and I
won't bother answering you if I cannot try it myself.

> If you ever bother to do so, you can even add -save-temps to the
> cflags and compare the assembler outputs to see what I am saying.

I believe you.  I didn't ask that question because I thought you were
lying, or didn't know what you were talking about.  I asked it because
these issues are complicated, and sometimes we tend to think we
understand something, when in fact we miss some subtle aspects.  Like
in that example with _open and O_BINARY a couple of days ago.

So please don't assume that every question like that is a challenge of
your integrity or a personal attack on your intelligence.  It's just a
normal way of discussing a complicated issue, about which _you_ asked
questions.  I'm not attacking you, I'm trying to help, goddamit!