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From: John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>
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Subject: Re: [geda-user] SAB processing patches
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 19:19:20 -0500
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> On Dec 10, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Glenn (glimrick AT epilitimus DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>=20
> John Doty wrote:
>> Or you can make them once in a backend independent manner.
>>=20
>> Sounds like some of the early gEDA mistakes, like the overloading of
>> pinseq. How is anything but a SPICE flow going to make sense of a
>> spice-prototype?
>>=20
> SAB doesn't use spice-protoype but certainly a user could write a =
script
> to make use of it in a non-spice context if they wished to do so, and
> then access that script by means of an 'exec' action.

A very strange notion. Of course a backend or any other script involved =
in processing schematics could evaluate a spice-prototype attribute, but =
what good would it be? The whole point of having a specialized attribute =
is to communicate specialized information. That=E2=80=99s one of the =
strengths of the gEDA/Lepton architecture: specialized flows don=E2=80=99t=
 need support in the core, and don=E2=80=99t constrain other flows.

>=20
> Glenn
>=20

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
jpd AT noqsi DOT com




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class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Dec 10, 2020, at 6:01 PM, Glenn (<a =
href=3D"mailto:glimrick AT epilitimus DOT com" =
class=3D"">glimrick AT epilitimus DOT com</a>) [via <a =
href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" =
class=3D"">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" =
class=3D"">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">John =
Doty wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Or you =
can make them once in a backend independent manner.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Sounds like some of the early gEDA mistakes, like the =
overloading of<br class=3D"">pinseq. How is anything but a SPICE flow =
going to make sense of a<br class=3D"">spice-prototype?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></blockquote>SAB doesn't use spice-protoype but certainly a =
user could write a script<br class=3D"">to make use of it in a non-spice =
context if they wished to do so, and<br class=3D"">then access that =
script by means of an 'exec' action.<br =
class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div>A very =
strange notion. Of course a backend or any other script involved in =
processing schematics could evaluate a spice-prototype attribute, but =
what good would it be? The whole point of having a specialized attribute =
is to communicate specialized information. That=E2=80=99s one of the =
strengths of the gEDA/Lepton architecture: specialized flows don=E2=80=99t=
 need support in the core, and don=E2=80=99t constrain other =
flows.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D"">Glenn<br class=3D""><br =
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