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Subject:	Re: [geda-user] graphical not overriding netlister
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From:	"Girvin Herr (gherrl AT fastmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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Date:	Tue, 26 Feb 2019 10:46:03 -0800
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On 2/26/19 8:35 AM, Roland Lutz wrote:
> Hi Girvin,
>
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2019, Girvin Herr (gherrl AT fastmail DOT com) [via 
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>> It was my understanding that if "graphical=1" is used in an 
>> instantiated symbol, that the tools will ignore that symbol. 
>> Apparently, from my observation that is not quite true. Is there 
>> another way to disable a symbol so that the tools ignore it, or what 
>> am I doing wrong with my use of "graphical"?
>
> unfortunately, no, the tools won't ignore that symbol, and no, there 
> is no other way to "disable" a symbol.  There's a simple solution for 
> your problem, though: update to the current "master" branch.
>
> The graphical=1 attribute means that the component is part of a 
> separate "graphical" netlist that is relevant for netlisting in some 
> ways but not in others.  The typical use case would be a titleblock 
> (which can have attributes, and these attributes are available to the 
> netlister) or net annotations like "not connected".
>
> When refactoring the netlister, I changed the behavior regarding 
> graphical components: they now aren't included in the default netlist 
> any more unless the backend decides otherwise in order to avoid the 
> exact situation you describe.
>
> Roland
>

Roland,

Thanks for your response to my problem.

I am not sure what or where I can get the "master" branch. I have 
historically gotten my gEDA releases from the gEDA website. 
http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:download
(BTW: This page still has some old versions listed. Is there a better, 
more up-to-date official release location?)

For some years, I have been lobbying for a new gEDA release, but got 
resistance that gEDA is now perfect and does not need any new 
development or new releases. This problem sounds like one additional 
rebuttal to that position.

Since there were only four of these terminals giving me problems, my 
solution was to re-draw the symbols as a real graphic without any 
intelligence, leaving the net node electrically hanging. The net still 
has a pull-up resistor connected to it, so it has more than one node. It 
is not pretty, but it does get rid of the pcb error and still matches my 
PCB design.

Thanks.
Girvin

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