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From: John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>
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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Refdes bug or Master Attribute Document on the Wiki
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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:21:19 -0500
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> On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Roland Lutz <rlutz AT hedmen DOT org> wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2019, John Doty wrote:
>> Remember, pcb existed before gEDA, and Ales designed gEDA to support =
*any* downstream flow, not just pcb. This is a place where core gEDA =
conventions don=E2=80=99t quite match the conventions of the downstream =
tool.
>=20
> Do you think it would be helpful to allow custom slot names (as =
opposed to slot=3D1, slot=3D2 etc.)?

Might be.

>=20
> Is there anything that depends on slot names being sequential =
integers?

Probably drc2. Maybe spice-sdb.

Perhaps the most common use case that works, but uncomfortably, is the =
slotted component with separate power symbol. Kai-Martin has published =
lots of symbols for these. The difficulty of finding blunders through =
all of drc2=E2=80=99s upset with this caused me to write =
gnet-check-duplicates.scm and gnet-check-pincount.scm (published on =
gedasymbols). Together, these are more effective at finding the kinds of =
blunders I make, while avoiding chatter about non-problems, than drc2 =
is. =E2=80=9CYour mileage may vary=E2=80=9D ;-)

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
jpd AT noqsi DOT com




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class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Roland Lutz &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rlutz AT hedmen DOT org" class=3D"">rlutz AT hedmen DOT org</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Wed, 30 Jan 2019, John Doty wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Remember, pcb existed before gEDA, and Ales =
designed gEDA to support *any* downstream flow, not just pcb. This is a =
place where core gEDA conventions don=E2=80=99t quite match the =
conventions of the downstream tool.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br =
class=3D"">Do you think it would be helpful to allow custom slot names =
(as opposed to slot=3D1, slot=3D2 etc.)?<br =
class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div>Might =
be.</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D"">Is there anything that depends =
on slot names being sequential integers?<br =
class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><br class=3D""></div><div>Probably =
drc2. Maybe spice-sdb.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Perhaps the =
most common use case that works, but uncomfortably, is the slotted =
component with separate power symbol. Kai-Martin has published lots of =
symbols for these. The difficulty of finding blunders through all of =
drc2=E2=80=99s upset with this caused me to =
write&nbsp;gnet-check-duplicates.scm and&nbsp;gnet-check-pincount.scm =
(published on gedasymbols). Together, these are more effective at =
finding the kinds of blunders I make, while avoiding chatter about =
non-problems, than drc2 is. =E2=80=9CYour mileage may vary=E2=80=9D =
;-)</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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class=3D"">John Doty<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<span =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-tab">&nbsp; &nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></span>Noqsi =
Aerospace, Ltd.</font></p><p style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:jpd AT noqsi DOT com" class=3D"">jpd AT noqsi DOT com</a></p><br =
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