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From: John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com>
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Subject: Re: [geda-user] Refdes bug or Master Attribute Document on the Wiki
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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 13:00:10 -0500
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> On Jan 30, 2019, at 12:36 PM, gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu wrote:
>=20
> pcb and/or gsch2pcb and/or the pcb backend (gnetlist) may have traces =
of=20
> the suffixing assumption from some age when someone thought it would =
be a=20
> good idea to have it in gEDA too. (pcb-rnd doesn't have a special case =
for=20
> lower case last letter of refdes - if some old corner of the code has =
it,=20
> it's a bug that I'd fix when reported).

But that should be a choice, defined by the scripting for a particular =
flow, not in the core code. There aren=E2=80=99t just these two =
mechanisms, either. Allegro, for example, has a much more elaborate =
mechanism that keeps track of the symmetries within slots (which input =
to the NAND you use doesn=E2=80=99t matter), as well as the symmetries =
between slots (which slot your use doesn=E2=80=99t matter).

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
jpd AT noqsi DOT com




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class=3D""></div><div>But that should be a choice, defined by the =
scripting for a particular flow, not in the core code. There aren=E2=80=99=
t just these two mechanisms, either. Allegro, for example, has a much =
more elaborate mechanism that keeps track of the symmetries within slots =
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symmetries between slots (which slot your use doesn=E2=80=99t =
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