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From:	"Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-user AT delorie DOT com>
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On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 09:29:46PM +0200, Roland Lutz wrote:
> Don Kuenz:
> >After the extraction of version.h, "make" successfully runs until it
> >reaches the "po" directory.
> >
> >    cd geda-gaf/xorn/po
> >    make xorn.pot-update
> >
> >At that point "make" displays a whole slew of errors.
> 
> These warnings are due to the fact that Python's string formatting mechanism
> doesn't support reordering arguments.  It would probably be a good idea to
> change that, but unless someone volunteers to translate the new messages to
> a language which requires this, these warnings can safely be ignored.
> 
> Don Kuenz:
> >The *.ged files were used to capture make output.
> >
> >    ./configure --disable-xorn && make
> >
> >successfully finished, as did
> >
> >    make install
> >
> >geda is now installed and functioning.
> 
> As Vladimir already pointed out, the version.h problem can't really be
> related to Xorn.  Could you please re-configure gEDA without the
> `--disable-xorn' argument and see if it still works?  If not, at which point
> does the build process stop, and what are the error messages?

No, I haven't pointed this out. I usually build geda-gaf with this
option and hence my suggestion to try it. I tried to build geda
without this option afterwards and it didn't work too.

> 
> >What does xorn do?
> 
> Xorn is a mechanism to allow for better scripting support which involves a
> partial refactoring of libgeda.  Vladimir doesn't like it.

I don't like that you promote it without any consensus with other
geda-gaf devs wrt basic project direction.

I don't want to have two code bases with parallel functionality in
one repository. This prevents users from contributing as they
don't know where to contribute better.

My intention is to develop current C/Scheme codebase. I am going
to remove any other language based additions (usually supported by
nobody) from the repository.

I suggest you to make a clone of geda-gaf and name it as you wish,
say, geda-xorn, put it on git.geda-project.org and administrate it
(that is, do what you want as its owner). That would be more honest
and we wouldn't lose those users who doesn't know where to
go.

> 
> See here for more information:
>   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.geda.user/49872/
>   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cad.geda.user/47487/
>   http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:xorn_getting_started
> 
> 
> Vladimir Zhbanov:
> >Don Kuenz:
> >> Do you want to see more of xorn's make output?
> >
> >Nope, thanks ;-)
> 
> Your complaints about build problems involving Xorn don't appear sincere if
> you actively discourage users from providing the information necessary to
> fix them.
>

I haven't complained, it was just my guess (which was right, BTW).

-- 
  Vladimir

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