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Given that most users install gEDA because they want to design a PCB, the
netlist functionality that glues gschem and PCB together remains opaque to,
and possibly even unnoticed by, most initiates.
Further documentation that extends or adds to
http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gnetlist_ug
would be most useful to assist potential developers interested in
maximising the potential of the tool suite without resorting to
un-necessarily complicated workarounds downstream.
Regards,
Erich.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:00 AM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:
>
> On Jul 15, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
> For me gschem is a bit of a black box. If the existing material on scheme
> use in gschem could be expanded and enhanced, we are more likely to lure
> potential developers into enhancing and extending it,
>
>
> There=E2=80=99s gschem and gnetlist. From where I sit, gschem is fairly c=
omplete
> as an editor for graphics with attached metadata. Further extension beyon=
d
> a few conveniences would appear to require extensions of the file format.
> There=E2=80=99s not a lot of opportunity to make gschem more powerful, bu=
t better
> graphics could be nice.
>
> The center of both the power and frustration of geda-gaf to me is
> gnetlist. If the views into the design it presents contain the data you
> need, and you=E2=80=99ve figured out enough Scheme (not much: I=E2=80=99m=
just a baby
> Scheme programmer), you can do great things with just a few lines of
> scripting.
>
> i.e. it'd be great if we could add more examples to
>
> http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gnetlist_scheme_tutorial
>
>
> I always intended that to be a first installment. Your encouragement may
> get me to write another.
>
> http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gschem_ug:extensions
>
> So, please do go into further detail, it would be of interest to me and t=
o
> others I am sure.
>
>
> John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
>
> http://www.noqsi.com/
>
> jpd AT noqsi DOT com
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Given that most users install gEDA because they want =
to design a PCB, the netlist functionality that glues gschem and PCB togeth=
er remains opaque to, and possibly even unnoticed by, most initiates.</div>=
<div>=C2=A0</div><div>Further documentation that extends or adds to </div><=
div>=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gnetlist_=
ug">http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gnetlist_ug</a></div><div>=C2=A0</div=
><div>would be most useful to assist potential developers interested in max=
imising the potential of the tool suite without resorting to un-necessarily=
complicated workarounds downstream.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=C2=A0=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Regards,</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Erich.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:00 AM, John Doty <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a=
href=3D"mailto:jpd AT noqsi DOT com" target=3D"_blank">jpd AT noqsi DOT com</a>></spa=
n> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex=
;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style=
:solid" class=3D"gmail_quote"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><br><div>=
<span><div>On Jul 15, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Erich Heinzle (<a href=3D"mailto:a1=
039181 AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D=
"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>]=
<<a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-user AT d=
elorie.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div>For me gschem is a bit of a black box. If the existing material on =
scheme use in gschem could be expanded and enhanced, we are more likely to =
lure potential developers into enhancing and extending it, </div></div></bl=
ockquote><div><br></div></span>There=E2=80=99s gschem and gnetlist. From wh=
ere I sit, gschem is fairly complete as an editor for graphics with attache=
d metadata. Further extension beyond a few conveniences would appear to req=
uire extensions of the file format. There=E2=80=99s not a lot of opportunit=
y to make gschem more powerful, but better graphics could be nice.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>The center of both the power and frustration of geda-gaf t=
o me is gnetlist. If the views into the design it presents contain the data=
you need, and you=E2=80=99ve figured out enough Scheme (not much: I=E2=80=
=99m just a baby Scheme programmer), you can do great things with just a fe=
w lines of scripting.</div><div><span><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div>i.e. it'd be great if we could add more examples to</div=
><div>=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gnetlis=
t_scheme_tutorial" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gnet=
list_scheme_tutorial</a></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span>I al=
ways intended that to be a first installment. Your encouragement may get me=
to write another.</div><span><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><a href=3D"http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gschem_ug:extens=
ions" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gschem_ug:extensi=
ons</a></div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>So, please do go into further detail, it=
would be of interest to me and to others I am sure.</div></div></blockquot=
e></div><br></span><span><div>
<span style=3D"font:12px/normal Helvetica;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-transform:n=
one;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:norm=
al;border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px 0px;font-size-adjust:none;fo=
nt-stretch:normal"><p style=3D"margin:0px"><font style=3D"font:12px/normal =
Helvetica;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal" size=3D"3" face=3D"Hel=
vetica">John Doty<span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<span>=C2=A0</span=
><span>=C2=A0 =C2=A0<span>=C2=A0</span></span></span>Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.<=
/font></p><p style=3D"margin:0px"><a href=3D"http://www.noqsi.com/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.noqsi.com/</a></p><p style=3D"margin:0px"><font styl=
e=3D"font:12px/normal Helvetica;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal" =
size=3D"3" face=3D"Helvetica"><a href=3D"mailto:jpd AT noqsi DOT com" target=3D"_b=
lank">jpd AT noqsi DOT com</a></font></p><br></span>
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<br></span></div></blockquote></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div></=
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