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Dave McGuire (mcguire AT neurotica DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> On 07/13/2015 11:36 AM, Evan Foss (evanfoss AT gmail DOT com) [via
> geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>    
>>>> I see this FLTK thing, and it looks good, but this is not mature.
>>>>          
>>> FLTK had its initial release in 1998.  I personally have used it, and
>>> can attest to its working well (by its own standard) since about 2006.
>>> I don't know how that can be considered not mature.
>>>
>>> Sorry to add one more bit of non-geda noise.
>>>        
>> Noise is better than silence and there is content in your words and
>> other peoples. The hard part is figuring out how to integrate
>> everything into a plan.
>>      
>    Then the next hard part is people finding time to do the actual work.
>   Every time all of us have a big conversation about the next big step
> for gschem or PCB, it ends with nothing (or nearly nothing) actually
> getting done.  It happens every couple of years.
>
>    I think what we need to motivate actual development, rather than
> conversation, is cold hard CASH.  I'll kick in a few bucks for the next
> round of development, whatever it may be, for gschem and PCB.
>
>    Anyone else?
>
>                   -Dave
>
>    
Just my proverbial 0.02 EUR.

IMHO, this is not fair towards the "pure" unpaid volunteers.

This approach put me off last time some bucks were collected through 
LinuxFund (1).

I could be tempted myself to hold off any commits until some cash was in 
sight and a paid for target identified.

To me this approach looks counter-productive on first, second and hind 
sight: if the financial threshold is not met, no commits will follow.

GSoC (2) is another way of getting some progress, although as soon as 
money or big job opportunities are in sight (last time) things can turn 
out sour (abandonware: I have no hard feelings though, it's just a pitah 
nobody was able to pick this one up and follow through, it's probably 
waaaaay over our heads --> magic stuff for a genius/wizard to master).

We are in this together and have to do the grunt work ourselves, long 
live the "doitocracy", these are your tools, let's keep them sharp and 
useful by (y)ourselves ;-)

Kind regards,

Bert Timmerman.

1) http://www.linuxfund.org/projects/pcb/

1) 
http://geda-dev.seul.narkive.com/gWNGZKO5/gsoc-project-topological-autorouter 

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