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On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 08:32:01AM -0700, Ouabache Designworks (z3qmtr45 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-user AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
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> It has been very stable but the current release (1.8.2) has been out for
> several years. Ver 1.9 has some nice features that I woud like to use but
> until it is blessed and pushed out to all the repo packagers then I  will
> stay with the older one that is an easy apt-get install away.
> 
> Does gEDA still run on windows? I have heard  rumblings that it is
Yes, it works again on windows :) I'm working on the windows port for
quite some time and I can say that cross-compilation is a nightmare :)
And the most harmful thing in this process was not geda-gaf but the
'mingw vs guile+gc' thing :)

There are some quirks but I've managed to make work all geda-gaf programs
(excluding maybe some minor utilities which I've not tried).

Now, I'm trying to organize, clean up and finish all (patches/ideas)
I've got now. All this runs slowly since I've limited bandwidth (as all
developers all over the world) and some other hard circumstances
limiting my time.

I don't think I'll get something 'ready for production use' any time
soon. So for now, if there is somebody who wants to try the last (git
HEAD) geda-gaf on windows, I could provide him/her with a tarball with
binaries and some little instructions on how to use it.

> currently broken. Bit rot is real. Unless you are actively testing with the
> newest distros then any open source project will sink into decay.
There is no such danger for geda-gaf yet, as I constantly work with its
latest version and I know that while it compiles at least on Linux,
it'll live :) The same I can say about pcb and gerbv. It is even
much easier to compile them now for windows than geda-gaf.

> 
> 
> You also have the big issues like the choice of scheme as gEDAs scripting
> language and the gEDA file formats. Is there anything to gain by changing
> and if so then what would be better and how do we transition?

The big issue is with people who consider only their favorite languages
as the only one which is worth to be used in geda. While I'm already not
young (though not so old as John Doty :)), I've decided to learn Scheme
and I can say it's a very interesting experience for me.

Cheers,
  Vladimir

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