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On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Dave McGuire <mcguire AT neurotica DOT com> wrote:
> On 02/05/2015 01:26 PM, mskala AT ansuz DOT sooke DOT bc DOT ca wrote:
>>>   Lua is primarily (and almost exclusively) used in games and toys.
>>> That has a few implications of its own.
>>
>> Scheme is primarily not used at all.  Is that better?
>
>   I think DJ made my point for me on this one.  Lisp being at the core
> of emacs, AutoCAD, and at least one large commercial EDA package that
> was mentioned in this thread, I think the argument for obscurity is a
> crock of BS.

Oh come on.  Almost no one knows it as John has pointed out.  That makes it
obscure by definition.  Being used in emacs isn't much of an argument either,
I wrote thousand lines of emacs list and hated it continually before finally
giving up and switching to vi like everyone else.  If you're starting from
now you use python, no question.

>   However, even if it were "primarily not used at all", if I were in a
> position to defend the use of gEDA vs. some commercial product, yes, it
> would in fact be better.  "Lua?  Isn't that for childrens' toys?  See, I
> told you that free stuff wasn't for real work."
>
>   It's pretty clear that you simply don't like Scheme.  That's fine,
> just keep it out of this thread.

Its not a matter of liking it or not.  Its not a question of its design.
Its just that its almost dead as far as user base and libraries.  Personally I
think everything should be in Smalltalk or Self, does that make them viable?

Britton

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