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Subject: Re: [geda-user] file format cooperation
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 12:13:41 -0400
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> On Jul 14, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via =
geda-user AT delorie DOT com] <geda-user AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
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> I think the lesson is that you need a save file format that can =
adequately express the feature set being used on a board, rather than =
having the feature set used on the board being constrained by the save =
file format.

There are more things than boards. Simulation is also important. I wrote =
gnet-spice-noqsi to make it practical to annotate a common schematic set =
for both layout and simulation. There are more layout systems than pcb. =
The core strength of gEDA from the beginning was its ability to support =
any one with a netlist format that was documented, or easy to figure out =
from examples.

Another strength of our file format is that while it is hierarchical =
like XML and s-expressions, it is also easily processed by classic =
line-oriented utilities (sed, awk, perl, =E2=80=A6). We get the =
advantages of both worlds.

John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
jpd AT noqsi DOT com




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class=3D"">On Jul 14, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Erich Heinzle (<a =
href=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail DOT com" class=3D"">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>) =
[via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" =
class=3D"">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:geda-user AT delorie DOT com" =
class=3D"">geda-user AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">I think the lesson is that you =
need a save file format that can adequately express the feature set =
being used on a board, rather than having the feature set used on the =
board being constrained by the save file =
format.</span></div></blockquote><br class=3D""></div><div>There are =
more things than boards. Simulation is also important. I wrote =
gnet-spice-noqsi to make it practical to annotate a common schematic set =
for both layout and simulation. There are more layout systems than pcb. =
The core strength of gEDA from the beginning was its ability to support =
any one with a netlist format that was documented, or easy to figure out =
from examples.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Another strength of =
our file format is that while it is hierarchical like XML and =
s-expressions, it is also easily processed by classic line-oriented =
utilities (sed, awk, perl, =E2=80=A6). We get the advantages of both =
worlds.</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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class=3D"">John Doty<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
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class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></span>Noqsi =
Aerospace, Ltd.</font></p><p style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D""><a =
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