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The <alt>-s collision with settings menu has been resolved in master and
will be available at the next release.
To change the size of the drill holes for pins, select all of the pins you
want to change by clicking them so that they turn blue. Then you can use
the command :ChangeHoleSize(SelectedPins, +1, mm). Note, that this will
fail if the final hole diameter is larger than the copper pad, so, you may
need to increase the size of the pad first.
Also note that any dimension that starts with a "+" or "-" is considered to
be a delta relative to the current dimension. So, for example, if your hole
diameter is 0.5 mm, and you executed :ChangeHoleSize(SelectedPins, +1, mm),
then your hole will increase to 1.5 mm. However, if you execute
:ChangeHoleSize(SelectedPins, 1, mm), then the hole size will become 1 mm.
If using the GTK HID, you can get a list of the current key-bindings by
looking in the "Info" menu.
gEDA comprises many programs. Each individual program (should) have its own
user's manual. pcb does, and it should ship with pcb. Search for the file
"pcb.pdf" on your filesystem. It's probably in /usr/share/doc/pcb or
/usr/local/share/doc/pcb.
--Chad
On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:58 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> Hi Glen,
> Apparently I cant use PCB, but have to use PCB-GTK. When I do I get:
>
> From http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:pcb-quick_reference:
> Alt+S sizehole increase the hole of the object under the cursor
> Alt+Shift+S sizehole (-) decrease the hole of the object under the cursor
> Ctrl+S sizehole increase the hole of the object under the cursor
> Ctrl+Shift+S sizehole (-) decrease the hole size
>
> Alt+s gives me Settings, Ctl+s gives me nothing
>
> :ChangeSize(SelectedPins,+1,mm) gives me nothing
>
> There a lots of tutorials, but is'nt there an authoritative manual for
> geda?
> torben
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 3:01 PM Glen W. Ruch (gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com) [via
> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Torben:
>>
>> I typically accept the defaults.?? Since I usually only manually drill
>> PCBs, I generally do not pay too much attention.
>>
>> I use *pcb*, and if your *pcb-gtk* is using the same user input,
>> hovering the cursor over the hole and pressing just *s *should increase
>> the *size* of the annular copper ring.?? (Seemingly without altering the
>> hole diameter)?? Pressing just *k *will adjust the *klearance* (*sic*)
>>
>> You might find the YouTube video:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6O817_G9VE interesting as he alters the
>> sizes of vias, and I can do the same with DIP socket pins.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>> On 8/7/19 6:18 AM, Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>
>> Hi Glen,
>> Anyway, it works.
>> I am trying to change drill size for a pin in PCB. I have tried
>> :ChangeSize(SelectedPins, +2000) (how do I select a pin?) and Alt+s while I
>> place the crossed lines on a pin, but nothing changes.
>> If I succeed in changing the?? drill size (which by the way is called
>> drill width), will the other dimensions (annular, etc) stay unchanged)?
>> best regards
>> torben
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 1:38 PM Glen W. Ruch (gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com) [via
>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Torben:
>>>
>>> I am not seeing the issue.?? Probably because I did not receive
>>> Saturday's message with the attachment.
>>>
>>> At this point I cannot tell if you are installing from your distro's
>>> repositories or cloning the github for local compiling.
>>>
>>> If compiling locally, there are quite a number of -devel files that must
>>> be installed from your distro's repository before you can start the build
>>> process.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps
>>> On 8/5/19 5:43 AM, Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Erich and Glen,
>>>
>>> I have run the geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial again and I get the same result.
>>> I have installed gtk2.0 (sudo apt-get install gtk2.0) and have packages:
>>>
>>> ii ??gtk-update-ico 3.22.30-1ubu amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??icon theme caching
>>> utility
>>> ii ??gtk2-engines-m 0.98.2-2ubun amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??cairo-based gtk+-2.0
>>> theme engine
>>> ii ??gtk2-engines-p 2.24.32-1ubu amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??pixbuf-based theme for
>>> GTK+ 2.x
>>> ii ??gtk2.0-example 2.24.32-1ubu amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??example files for GTK+
>>> 2.0
>>>
>>> and:
>>>
>>> ii ??pcb ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??all ?? ?? ?? ?? ??printed
>>> circuit board (pcb) desig
>>> ii ??pcb-common ?? ?? 1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??all ?? ?? ?? ?? ??printed circuit
>>> board (pcb) desig
>>> ii ??pcb-gtk ?? ?? ?? ??1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??printed circuit
>>> board (pcb) desig
>>> ii ??pcb-lesstif ?? ??1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??printed circuit
>>> board (pcb) desig
>>>
>>> The board.pcb file starts:
>>>
>>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject1$ cat board.pcb
>>> # release: pcb 1.99x
>>> # To read pcb files, the pcb version (or the cvs source date) must be >=
>>> the file version
>>> FileVersion[20070407]
>>> PCB["" 600000 500000]
>>> Grid[10000.000000 0 0 0]
>>> Cursor[0 0 0.000000]
>>> PolyArea[200000000.000000]
>>> Thermal[0.500000]
>>> DRC[1000 1000 1000 1000 1500 1000]
>>> Flags("nameonpcb,uniquename,clearnew,snappin")
>>> Groups("1,c:2:3:4:5:6,s:7:8")
>>>
>>> Styles["Signal,1000,3600,2000,1000:Power,2500,6000,3500,1000:Fat,4000,6000,3500,1000:Skinny,600,2402,1181,600"]
>>> Element(0x00 "TO92" "Q201" "2N3904" 0 0 0 100 0x00)
>>> (
>>> Pin(250 200 72 42 "1" 0x101)
>>> .
>>> .
>>> .
>>>
>>> Can you see anything wrong?
>>> It's a real mystery.
>>> best regards
>>> torben
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 4:46 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Erich and Glen,
>>>> I have started from scratch (uninstalling - installing gEDA,??
>>>> restarting the computer.) without using sudo and I have installed gtk (sudo
>>>> apt install gtk+3.0) and the result is shown in the attached screen dump.
>>>> Same result, but there is something about gtk that I may have
>>>> misunderstood.
>>>> best regards
>>>> torben
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 8:07 AM Glen W. Ruch (gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com) [via
>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> P.S.
>>>>> You may also want to do a *ls -l *(list -long) to see how many files
>>>>> still belong to you and how many belong to root.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may want to *sudo chown* to move the files back to the correct
>>>>> owner.
>>>>>
>>>>> On my computer there is a difference between the user default
>>>>> permissions and root's default permissions.?? You may want to correct the
>>>>> permissions with *sudo chmod*
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/1/19 4:34 PM, Glen W. Ruch (gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com) [via
>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Torben:
>>>>>
>>>>> You should not have to use *sudo* *(SuperUser DO) *as this elevates
>>>>> you from your user level (torben) to root user.
>>>>>
>>>>> This may be causing issues where you are saving files as user *torben*,
>>>>> but when you become root, root's directory may be checked for the file.
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo is a dangerous tool and is meant to be used for specific uses
>>>>> such as installing software.?? Using it excessively can cause a typo to
>>>>> have catastrophic consequences.?? When your computer is configured
>>>>> correctly you should be able to run *gschem* or *pcb* (etc.) with
>>>>> your own user (torben) level privileges.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>> On 7/30/19 7:11 AM, Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Is Wilson's tutorial up-to-date? I run:
>>>>>
>>>>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject3$ sudo gsch2pcb project
>>>>>
>>>>> with 2 resistors and get:
>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>> Done processing.?? Work performed:
>>>>> 2 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.pcb.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next step:
>>>>> 1.?? Run pcb on your file board.pcb.
>>>>> ?? ?? You will find all your footprints in a bundle ready for you to
>>>>> place
>>>>> ?? ?? or disperse with "Select -> Disperse all elements" in PCB.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.?? From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and select
>>>>> ?? ?? board.net to load the netlist.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.?? From within PCB, enter
>>>>>
>>>>> ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??:ExecuteFile(board.cmd)
>>>>>
>>>>> ?? ?? to propagate the pin names of all footprints to the layout.
>>>>>
>>>>> I then run:
>>>>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject3$ sudo pcb board.pcb
>>>>>
>>>>> and get:
>>>>> File 'board.pcb' has no font information, using default font
>>>>> ??
>>>>> I then get the rather empty looking screen shown attached.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can disperse the components and run the netlist, but when I run
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo :ExecuteFile(board.cmd) (or :ExecuteFile(board.cmd))
>>>>> ??nothing happens
>>>>>
>>>>> Incidentally, when I run:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo gschem one.sch
>>>>>
>>>>> the curser moves to the next line. It looks as if some input is
>>>>> expected. What?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone help?
>>>>> best regards
>>>>> torben
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:04 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi ,
>>>>>> I have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot find it. I
>>>>>> have been looking for .../newlib and found it in two places, but neither
>>>>>> one appeared to provide it.
>>>>>> Is there anywhere else I can look for it?
>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>The <alt>-s collision with settings menu has be=
en resolved in master and will be available at the next release.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>To change the size of the drill holes for pins, select all o=
f the pins you want to change by clicking them so that they turn blue. Then=
you can use the command :ChangeHoleSize(SelectedPins, +1, mm). Note, that =
this will fail if the final hole diameter is larger than the copper pad, so=
, you may need to increase the size of the pad first. <br></div><div><br></=
div><div>Also note that any dimension that starts with a "+" or &=
quot;-" is considered to be a delta relative to the current dimension.=
So, for example, if your hole diameter is 0.5 mm, and you executed :Change=
HoleSize(SelectedPins, +1, mm), then your hole will increase to 1.5 mm. How=
ever, if you execute :ChangeHoleSize(SelectedPins, 1, mm), then the hole si=
ze will become 1 mm.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If using the GTK HID, you=
can get a list of the current key-bindings by looking in the "Info&qu=
ot; menu.</div><div><br></div><div>gEDA comprises many programs. Each indiv=
idual program (should) have its own user's manual. pcb does, and it sho=
uld ship with pcb. Search for the file "pcb.pdf" on your filesyst=
em. It's probably in /usr/share/doc/pcb or /usr/local/share/doc/pcb.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>--Chad<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:58 AM Torb=
en Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via =
<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a =
href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:large">Hi Glen,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Apparently I cant use =
PCB, but have to use PCB-GTK. When I do I get:</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,san=
s-serif;font-size:large">From <a href=3D"http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:=
pcb-quick_reference" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:pc=
b-quick_reference</a>:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Alt+S sizehole increase th=
e hole of the object under the cursor<br>Alt+Shift+S sizehole (-) decreas=
e the hole of the object under the cursor<br>Ctrl+S sizehole increase the=
hole of the object under the cursor<br>Ctrl+Shift+S sizehole (-) decreas=
e the hole size<br><br>Alt+s gives me Settings, Ctl+s gives me nothing<br><=
br>:ChangeSize(SelectedPins,+1,mm) gives me nothing</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large">There a lots of tutorials, but is'nt ther=
e an authoritative manual for geda?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,=
sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 3:01 PM Glen W=
. Ruch (<a href=3D"mailto:gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com" target=3D"_blank">gw DOT ruch AT yaho=
o.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">=
geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Torben:</p>
<p>I typically accept the defaults.?? Since I usually only manually
drill PCBs, I generally do not pay too much attention.</p>
<p>I use <i><b>pcb</b></i>, and if your <i><b>pcb-gtk</b></i> is
using the same user input, hovering the cursor over the hole and
pressing just <i><b>s </b></i>should increase the <i><b>size</b></i>
of the annular copper ring.?? (Seemingly without altering the hole
diameter)?? Pressing just <i><b>k </b></i>will adjust the <i><b>klear=
ance</b></i>
(<i>sic</i>) <br>
</p>
<p>You might find the YouTube video: <a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com=
/watch?v=3Ds6O817_G9VE" target=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
=3Ds6O817_G9VE</a>
interesting as he alters the sizes of vias, and I can do the same
with DIP socket pins.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.<br>
</p>
<div class=3D"gmail-m_-8853563024957483338gmail-m_-3552897844207147919m=
oz-cite-prefix">On 8/7/19 6:18 AM, Torben Friis
(<a class=3D"gmail-m_-8853563024957483338gmail-m_-3552897844207147919=
moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blan=
k">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a class=3D"gmail-m_-8853563024957483338gmai=
l-m_-3552897844207147919moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:geda-help@=
delorie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large">Hi
Glen,</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large">Anyway,
it works.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large">I
am trying to change drill size for a pin in PCB. I have tried
:ChangeSize(SelectedPins, +2000) (how do I select a pin?) and
Alt+s while I place the crossed lines on a pin, but nothing
changes.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large">If
I succeed in changing the?? drill size (which by the way is
called drill width), will the other dimensions (annular, etc)
stay unchanged)?</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large">best
regards</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 1:38 P=
M
Glen W. Ruch (<a href=3D"mailto:gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>]
<<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">ge=
da-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
<p>Torben:<br>
<br>
I am not seeing the issue.?? Probably because I did not
receive Saturday's message with the attachment. <br>
<br>
At this point I cannot tell if you are installing from
your distro's repositories or cloning the github for loca=
l
compiling.<br>
<br>
If compiling locally, there are quite a number of -devel
files that must be installed from your distro's repositor=
y
before you can start the build process.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps<br>
</p>
<div class=3D"gmail-m_-8853563024957483338gmail-m_-355289784420=
7147919gmail-m_5351962411090118364moz-cite-prefix">On
8/5/19 5:43 AM, Torben Friis (<a class=3D"gmail-m_-8853563024=
957483338gmail-m_-3552897844207147919gmail-m_5351962411090118364moz-txt-lin=
k-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf@=
gmail.com</a>) [via <a class=3D"gmail-m_-8853563024957483338gmail-m_-355289=
7844207147919gmail-m_5351962411090118364moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"m=
ailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] w=
rote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,hel=
vetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi
Erich and Glen,<br>
<br>
I have run the geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial again and I get
the same result.<br>
I have installed gtk2.0 (sudo apt-get install gtk2.0)
and have packages:<br>
<br>
ii ??gtk-update-ico 3.22.30-1ubu amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??icon
theme caching utility<br>
ii ??gtk2-engines-m 0.98.2-2ubun amd64 ?? ?? ??
??cairo-based gtk+-2.0 theme engine<br>
ii ??gtk2-engines-p 2.24.32-1ubu amd64 ?? ?? ??
??pixbuf-based theme for GTK+ 2.x<br>
ii ??gtk2.0-example 2.24.32-1ubu amd64 ?? ?? ??
??example files for GTK+ 2.0<br>
<br>
and:<br>
<br>
ii ??pcb ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??all ?? ?? ??
?? ??printed circuit board (pcb) desig<br>
ii ??pcb-common ?? ?? 1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??all ?? ?? ?? ??
??printed circuit board (pcb) desig<br>
ii ??pcb-gtk ?? ?? ?? ??1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??amd64 ?? ?? ??
??printed circuit board (pcb) desig<br>
ii ??pcb-lesstif ?? ??1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??amd64 ?? ?? ??
??printed circuit board (pcb) desig<br>
<br>
The board.pcb file starts:<br>
<br>
torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject1$ cat
board.pcb<br>
# release: pcb 1.99x<br>
# To read pcb files, the pcb version (or the cvs
source date) must be >=3D the file version<br>
FileVersion[20070407]<br>
PCB["" 600000 500000]<br>
Grid[10000.000000 0 0 0]<br>
Cursor[0 0 0.000000]<br>
PolyArea[200000000.000000]<br>
Thermal[0.500000]<br>
DRC[1000 1000 1000 1000 1500 1000]<br>
Flags("nameonpcb,uniquename,clearnew,snappin")<=
br>
Groups("1,c:2:3:4:5:6,s:7:8")<br>
Styles["Signal,1000,3600,2000,1000:Power,2500,6000,3500,1000:Fat,4000,=
6000,3500,1000:Skinny,600,2402,1181,600"]<br>
Element(0x00 "TO92" "Q201" "2N39=
04" 0 0 0 100 0x00)<br>
(<br>
Pin(250 200 72 42 "1" 0x101)<br>
.<br>
.<br>
.<br>
<br>
Can you see anything wrong?<br>
It's a real mystery.<br>
best regards<br>
torben<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 a=
t
4:46 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial=
,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi
Erich and Glen,</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial=
,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
have started from scratch (uninstalling -
installing gEDA,?? restarting the computer.)
without using sudo and I have installed gtk (sudo
apt install gtk+3.0) and the result is shown in
the attached screen dump.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial=
,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Same
result, but there is something about gtk that I
may have misunderstood.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial=
,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">best
regards<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial=
,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 2,
2019 at 8:07 AM Glen W. Ruch (<a href=3D"mailto:gw.ru=
ch AT yahoo DOT com" target=3D"_blank">gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com</a>)
[via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>]
<<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>P.S.<br>
You may also want to do a <b>ls -l </b>(list
-long) to see how many files still belong to
you and how many belong to root.</p>
<p>You may want to <b>sudo chown</b> to move
the files back to the correct owner.</p>
<p>On my computer there is a difference between
the user default permissions and root's
default permissions.?? You may want to correct
the permissions with <b>sudo chmod</b><br>
</p>
<p>Regards.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class=3D"gmail-m_-8853563024957483338gmail-m_-=
3552897844207147919gmail-m_5351962411090118364gmail-m_6568291093109405877gm=
ail-m_-428759268849965292moz-cite-prefix">On
8/1/19 4:34 PM, Glen W. Ruch (<a class=3D"gmail-m=
_-8853563024957483338gmail-m_-3552897844207147919gmail-m_535196241109011836=
4gmail-m_6568291093109405877gmail-m_-428759268849965292moz-txt-link-abbrevi=
ated" href=3D"mailto:gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com" target=3D"_blank">gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com=
</a>)
[via <a class=3D"gmail-m_-8853563024957483338gmai=
l-m_-3552897844207147919gmail-m_5351962411090118364gmail-m_6568291093109405=
877gmail-m_-428759268849965292moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:geda=
-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>]
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<p>Torben:</p>
<p>You should not have to use <i><b>sudo</b></i>
<i><b>(SuperUser DO) </b></i>as this
elevates you from your user level (torben)
to root user. <br>
</p>
<p>This may be causing issues where you are
saving files as user <i><b>torben</b></i>,
but when you become root, root's directory
may be checked for the file.</p>
<p>sudo is a dangerous tool and is meant to be
used for specific uses such as installing
software.?? Using it excessively can cause a
typo to have catastrophic consequences.??
When your computer is configured correctly
you should be able to run <i><b>gschem</b></i>
or <i><b>pcb</b></i> (etc.) with your own
user (torben) level privileges.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.<br>
</p>
<div class=3D"gmail-m_-8853563024957483338gmail-m=
_-3552897844207147919gmail-m_5351962411090118364gmail-m_6568291093109405877=
gmail-m_-428759268849965292moz-cite-prefix">On
7/30/19 7:11 AM, Torben Friis (<a class=3D"gmai=
l-m_-8853563024957483338gmail-m_-3552897844207147919gmail-m_535196241109011=
8364gmail-m_6568291093109405877gmail-m_-428759268849965292moz-txt-link-abbr=
eviated" href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail.=
com</a>)
[via <a class=3D"gmail-m_-8853563024957483338gm=
ail-m_-3552897844207147919gmail-m_5351962411090118364gmail-m_65682910931094=
05877gmail-m_-428759268849965292moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:ge=
da-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>]
wrote:<br>
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<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Is
Wilson's tutorial up-to-date? I run:<br=
>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-77=
3G:~/gaf/myproject3$
sudo gsch2pcb project</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">
with 2 resistors and get:<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">--------------------------=
--------<br>
Done processing.?? Work performed:<br>
2 file elements and 0 m4 elements added
to board.pcb.<br>
<br>
Next step:<br>
1.?? Run pcb on your file board.pcb.<br>
?? ?? You will find all your footprints
in a bundle ready for you to place<br>
?? ?? or disperse with "Select ->
Disperse all elements" in PCB.<br>
<br>
2.?? From within PCB, select "File -&g=
t;
Load netlist file" and select <br>
?? ?? <a href=3D"http://board.net" target=
=3D"_blank">board.net</a>
to load the netlist.<br>
<br>
3.?? From within PCB, enter<br>
<br>
?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??:ExecuteFile(board.cmd)<br=
>
<br>
?? ?? to propagate the pin names of all
footprints to the layout.<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
then run:<br>
torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject3$ sudo pcb board.pcb<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">and
get:<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">File
'board.pcb' has no font information=
,
using default font<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">??<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
then get the rather empty looking screen
shown attached.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
can disperse the components and run the
netlist, but when I run</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">sudo
:ExecuteFile(board.cmd) (or
:ExecuteFile(board.cmd))</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">??nothing
happens</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Incidentally,
when I run:</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">sudo
gschem one.sch</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">the
curser moves to the next line. It looks
as if some input is expected. What?<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">Can anyone help?</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">best regards</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">torben</div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu,
Feb 14, 2019 at 3:04 PM Torben Friis
<<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi
,</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
have been looking fo the above
element, but I cannot find it. I
have been looking for .../newlib and
found it in two places, but neither
one appeared to provide it.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Is
there anywhere else I can look for
it?</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br>
</div>
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