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Hi Erich and Glen,
I have run the geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial again and I get the same result.
I have installed gtk2.0 (sudo apt-get install gtk2.0) and have packages:
ii gtk-update-ico 3.22.30-1ubu amd64 icon theme caching utility
ii gtk2-engines-m 0.98.2-2ubun amd64 cairo-based gtk+-2.0 theme
engine
ii gtk2-engines-p 2.24.32-1ubu amd64 pixbuf-based theme for GTK+ 2.x
ii gtk2.0-example 2.24.32-1ubu amd64 example files for GTK+ 2.0
and:
ii pcb 1:4.0.2-4 all printed circuit board (pcb)
desig
ii pcb-common 1:4.0.2-4 all printed circuit board (pcb)
desig
ii pcb-gtk 1:4.0.2-4 amd64 printed circuit board (pcb)
desig
ii pcb-lesstif 1:4.0.2-4 amd64 printed circuit board (pcb)
desig
The board.pcb file starts:
torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject1$ cat board.pcb
# release: pcb 1.99x
# To read pcb files, the pcb version (or the cvs source date) must be >=
the file version
FileVersion[20070407]
PCB["" 600000 500000]
Grid[10000.000000 0 0 0]
Cursor[0 0 0.000000]
PolyArea[200000000.000000]
Thermal[0.500000]
DRC[1000 1000 1000 1000 1500 1000]
Flags("nameonpcb,uniquename,clearnew,snappin")
Groups("1,c:2:3:4:5:6,s:7:8")
Styles["Signal,1000,3600,2000,1000:Power,2500,6000,3500,1000:Fat,4000,6000,3500,1000:Skinny,600,2402,1181,600"]
Element(0x00 "TO92" "Q201" "2N3904" 0 0 0 100 0x00)
(
Pin(250 200 72 42 "1" 0x101)
.
.
.
Can you see anything wrong?
It's a real mystery.
best regards
torben
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 4:46 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
> Hi Erich and Glen,
> I have started from scratch (uninstalling - installing gEDA, restarting
> the computer.) without using sudo and I have installed gtk (sudo apt
> install gtk+3.0) and the result is shown in the attached screen dump.
> Same result, but there is something about gtk that I may have
> misunderstood.
> best regards
> torben
>
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 8:07 AM Glen W. Ruch (gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com) [via
> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> P.S.
>> You may also want to do a *ls -l *(list -long) to see how many files
>> still belong to you and how many belong to root.
>>
>> You may want to *sudo chown* to move the files back to the correct owner.
>>
>> On my computer there is a difference between the user default permissions
>> and root's default permissions.?? You may want to correct the permissions
>> with *sudo chmod*
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> On 8/1/19 4:34 PM, Glen W. Ruch (gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com) [via
>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>
>> Torben:
>>
>> You should not have to use *sudo* *(SuperUser DO) *as this elevates you
>> from your user level (torben) to root user.
>>
>> This may be causing issues where you are saving files as user *torben*,
>> but when you become root, root's directory may be checked for the file.
>>
>> sudo is a dangerous tool and is meant to be used for specific uses such
>> as installing software.?? Using it excessively can cause a typo to have
>> catastrophic consequences.?? When your computer is configured correctly you
>> should be able to run *gschem* or *pcb* (etc.) with your own user
>> (torben) level privileges.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>> On 7/30/19 7:11 AM, Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Is Wilson's tutorial up-to-date? I run:
>>
>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject3$ sudo gsch2pcb project
>>
>> with 2 resistors and get:
>> ----------------------------------
>> Done processing.?? Work performed:
>> 2 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.pcb.
>>
>> Next step:
>> 1.?? Run pcb on your file board.pcb.
>> ?? ?? You will find all your footprints in a bundle ready for you to place
>> ?? ?? or disperse with "Select -> Disperse all elements" in PCB.
>>
>> 2.?? From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and select
>> ?? ?? board.net to load the netlist.
>>
>> 3.?? From within PCB, enter
>>
>> ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??:ExecuteFile(board.cmd)
>>
>> ?? ?? to propagate the pin names of all footprints to the layout.
>>
>> I then run:
>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject3$ sudo pcb board.pcb
>>
>> and get:
>> File 'board.pcb' has no font information, using default font
>> ??
>> I then get the rather empty looking screen shown attached.
>>
>> I can disperse the components and run the netlist, but when I run
>>
>> sudo :ExecuteFile(board.cmd) (or :ExecuteFile(board.cmd))
>> ??nothing happens
>>
>> Incidentally, when I run:
>>
>> sudo gschem one.sch
>>
>> the curser moves to the next line. It looks as if some input is expected.
>> What?
>>
>>
>> Can anyone help?
>> best regards
>> torben
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:04 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi ,
>>> I have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot find it. I have
>>> been looking for .../newlib and found it in two places, but neither one
>>> appeared to provide it.
>>> Is there anywhere else I can look for it?
>>> torben
>>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Erich and Glen,<br><br>I have run th=
e geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial again and I get the same result.<br>I have install=
ed gtk2.0 (sudo apt-get install gtk2.0) and have packages:<br><br>ii =C2=A0=
gtk-update-ico 3.22.30-1ubu amd64 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0icon theme cac=
hing utility<br>ii =C2=A0gtk2-engines-m 0.98.2-2ubun amd64 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0cairo-based gtk+-2.0 theme engine<br>ii =C2=A0gtk2-engines-p 2=
.24.32-1ubu amd64 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pixbuf-based theme for GTK+ 2.=
x<br>ii =C2=A0gtk2.0-example 2.24.32-1ubu amd64 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
example files for GTK+ 2.0<br><br>and:<br><br>ii =C2=A0pcb =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01:4.0.2-4 =C2=A0 =C2=A0all =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0printed circuit board (pcb) desig<br>ii =C2=A0pcb-common =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 1:4.0.2-4 =C2=A0 =C2=A0all =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pri=
nted circuit board (pcb) desig<br>ii =C2=A0pcb-gtk =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A01:4.0.2-4 =C2=A0 =C2=A0amd64 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0printed circuit =
board (pcb) desig<br>ii =C2=A0pcb-lesstif =C2=A0 =C2=A01:4.0.2-4 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0amd64 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0printed circuit board (pcb) desig<br><b=
r>The board.pcb file starts:<br><br>torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/mypr=
oject1$ cat board.pcb<br># release: pcb 1.99x<br># To read pcb files, the p=
cb version (or the cvs source date) must be >=3D the file version<br>Fil=
eVersion[20070407]<br>PCB["" 600000 500000]<br>Grid[10000.000000 =
0 0 0]<br>Cursor[0 0 0.000000]<br>PolyArea[200000000.000000]<br>Thermal[0.5=
00000]<br>DRC[1000 1000 1000 1000 1500 1000]<br>Flags("nameonpcb,uniqu=
ename,clearnew,snappin")<br>Groups("1,c:2:3:4:5:6,s:7:8")<br=
>Styles["Signal,1000,3600,2000,1000:Power,2500,6000,3500,1000:Fat,4000=
,6000,3500,1000:Skinny,600,2402,1181,600"]<br>Element(0x00 "TO92&=
quot; "Q201" "2N3904" 0 0 0 100 0x00)<br>(<br> Pin(250 =
200 72 42 "1" 0x101)<br>.<br>.<br>.<br><br>Can you see anything w=
rong?<br>It's a real mystery.<br>best regards<br>torben<br></div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat=
, Aug 3, 2019 at 4:46 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT c=
om">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Erich and Glen,=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,san=
s-serif;font-size:large">I have started from scratch (uninstalling - instal=
ling gEDA,=C2=A0 restarting the computer.) without using sudo and I have in=
stalled gtk (sudo apt install gtk+3.0) and the result is shown in the attac=
hed screen dump.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:ari=
al,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Same result, but there is somethin=
g about gtk that I may have misunderstood.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">best reg=
ards<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 8:0=
7 AM Glen W. Ruch (<a href=3D"mailto:gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com" target=3D"_blank">g=
w DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delo=
rie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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=20
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<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
<p>P.S.<br>
You may also want to do a <b>ls -l </b>(list -long) to see how
many files still belong to you and how many belong to root.</p>
<p>You may want to <b>sudo chown</b> to move the files back to the
correct owner.</p>
<p>On my computer there is a difference between the user default
permissions and root's default permissions.?? You may want to
correct the permissions with <b>sudo chmod</b><br>
</p>
<p>Regards.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<div class=3D"gmail-m_6568291093109405877gmail-m_-428759268849965292moz=
-cite-prefix">On 8/1/19 4:34 PM, Glen W. Ruch
(<a class=3D"gmail-m_6568291093109405877gmail-m_-428759268849965292mo=
z-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com" target=3D"_blank"=
>gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com</a>) [via <a class=3D"gmail-m_6568291093109405877gmail-m=
_-428759268849965292moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delo=
rie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
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<p>Torben:</p>
<p>You should not have to use <i><b>sudo</b></i> <i><b>(SuperUser
DO) </b></i>as this elevates you from your user level
(torben) to root user. <br>
</p>
<p>This may be causing issues where you are saving files as user <i><=
b>torben</b></i>,
but when you become root, root's directory may be checked for
the file.</p>
<p>sudo is a dangerous tool and is meant to be used for specific
uses such as installing software.?? Using it excessively can
cause a typo to have catastrophic consequences.?? When your
computer is configured correctly you should be able to run <i><b>gs=
chem</b></i>
or <i><b>pcb</b></i> (etc.) with your own user (torben) level
privileges.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.<br>
</p>
<div class=3D"gmail-m_6568291093109405877gmail-m_-428759268849965292m=
oz-cite-prefix">On 7/30/19 7:11 AM, Torben Friis (<a class=3D"gmail-m_65682=
91093109405877gmail-m_-428759268849965292moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"=
mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>)
[via <a class=3D"gmail-m_6568291093109405877gmail-m_-42875926884996=
5292moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>]
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">Is
Wilson's tutorial up-to-date? I run:<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject3$
sudo gsch2pcb project</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">
with 2 resistors and get:<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">----------------------------------<br>
Done processing.?? Work performed:<br>
2 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.pcb.<br>
<br>
Next step:<br>
1.?? Run pcb on your file board.pcb.<br>
?? ?? You will find all your footprints in a bundle ready
for you to place<br>
?? ?? or disperse with "Select -> Disperse all elements=
"
in PCB.<br>
<br>
2.?? From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file=
"
and select <br>
?? ?? <a href=3D"http://board.net" target=3D"_blank">board.net<=
/a> to load the netlist.<br>
<br>
3.?? From within PCB, enter<br>
<br>
?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??:ExecuteFile(board.cmd)<br>
<br>
?? ?? to propagate the pin names of all footprints to the
layout.<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
then run:<br>
torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject3$ sudo pcb
board.pcb<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">and
get:<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">File
'board.pcb' has no font information, using default font=
<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">??<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
then get the rather empty looking screen shown attached.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
can disperse the components and run the netlist, but when I
run</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">sudo
:ExecuteFile(board.cmd) (or :ExecuteFile(board.cmd))</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">??nothing
happens</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">Incidentally,
when I run:</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">sudo
gschem one.sch</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">the
curser moves to the next line. It looks as if some input is
expected. What?<br>
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,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:=
large" class=3D"gmail_default">Can anyone help?</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:=
large" class=3D"gmail_default">best regards</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:=
large" class=3D"gmail_default">torben</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:0=
4
PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi
,</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot
find it. I have been looking for .../newlib and found it
in two places, but neither one appeared to provide it.</div=
>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Is
there anywhere else I can look for it?</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br>
</div>
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