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Hi Erich,
That helped a lot!
I now have:
ls /home/torben/gaf/gschem-sym
2_SCREW_CONNECTOR.sym 3_SCREW_CONNECTOR.sym PICAXE-14M.sym
ls /home/torben/gaf/pcb-elements
DIP14.fp mors_2p.fp mors_3p.fp
For Add-Component I get:
>
local
> Basic devices
.
.
.
and when i double-click the empty space at the top, I get:
2_SCREW_CONNECTOR.sym
3_SCREW_CONNECTOR.sym
PICAXE-14M
Now I am supposed to enter:
gschem one.sch
When I do I get error messages about a missing one.sch and the curser goes
to the next line. Actually that is not surprising considering that that
one.sch does not yet exist.
When I then fill in the schema and run /home/torben/gaf/myproject3/gsch2pcb
project I get the error message:
No elements found, so nothing to do.
I have saved one.sch so that is another surprise - can you help?
best regards
torben
On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 1:14 AM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> Rather than learning to read the x and y coordinates in
>
> Pin[-20000 0 11810 2000 12610 4920 "0" "_1_" "square"]
> Pin[0 0 11810 2000 12610 4920 "0" "_2_" ""]
> Pin[20000 0 11810 2000 12610 4920 "0" "_3_" ""]
>
> The simplest thing is to open the footprint file in the layout editor and
> use the cursor and or the measure function to determine distances.
>
> If you want to learn about the format, I recommend
>
> http://www.ssalewski.de/PcbFootprintRef.txt
>
> Regards,
>
> Erich
>
> On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 06:37 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
> geda-help AT delorie DOT com], <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Erich,
>> Where do I find the hole spacing and the hole size in you fp:
>>
>> Element["" "N MORS 3P " "" "" 0 0 0 -23000 0 100 ""]
>> (
>> ElementLine[-30000 18000 -30000 14000 1000]
>> ElementLine[-30000 14000 30000 14000 1000]
>> ElementLine[30000 14000 30000 18000 1000]
>> ElementLine[30000 18000 -30000 18000 1000]
>> ElementLine[-30000 -18000 -30000 -15000 1000]
>> ElementLine[-30000 -18000 30000 -18000 1000]
>> ElementLine[30000 -18000 30000 -15000 1000]
>> ElementLine[-30000 15000 -30000 -15000 1000]
>> ElementLine[30000 15000 30000 -15000 1000]
>> Pin[-20000 0 11810 2000 12610 4920 "0" "_1_" "square"]
>> Pin[0 0 11810 2000 12610 4920 "0" "_2_" ""]
>> Pin[20000 0 11810 2000 12610 4920 "0" "_3_" ""]
>> )
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> torben
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 2:25 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via
>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Good work on the file system.
>>>
>>> I usually create a project directory and put my usual/frequently used
>>> footprints in the packages or fp subdirectory, depending on the naming
>>> convention in the template being used.
>>>
>>> The main thing is to ensure that the screw terminals you are using are
>>> spaced 0.2 inches apart. The hole and annulus sizes can be easily modif=
ied
>>> in the layout editor, but pin spacing is harder to modify in an existin=
g
>>> footprint. You should always check that footprints you source from
>>> elsewhere have sane annuli and hole sizes before sending off the board =
for
>>> fabrication.
>>>
>>> You are right, any three pin symbol can map to a three pin footprint,
>>> provided that the pin labels on the footprint are sane. Sometimes impor=
ted
>>> symbols like the one you mention need to have the pin name changed to "=
1"
>>> instead of "_1_" etc... To make the netlist behave when imported into t=
he
>>> layout editor.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Erich
>>>
>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:22 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com], <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Erich Heinzle,
>>>> I solved the immediate problem by changing the file system to:.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> /home/torben/gaf/gschem-sym
>>>> /home/torben/gaf/pcb-elements
>>>> /home/torben/.gEDA/gafrc
>>>> (cat /home/torben/.gEDA/gafrc
>>>> (component-library-search "/home/torben/gaf/gschem-sym")
>>>>
>>>> but I will setup my system as you have set up yours.
>>>>
>>>> I need to have some screw terminals set up and I found yours:
>>>>
>>>> /user/erich_heinzle/kicad/footprints/w_conn_screw.mod/mors_3p.fp
>>>>
>>>> I could not find the corresponding sym file. Is there one?
>>>>
>>>> I suppose I can use any(!) sym file as long as I set footprint to
>>>> mors_3p.fp in the sym file and enter
>>>> /user/erich_heinzle/kicad/footprints/w_conn_screw.mod/mors_3p.fp in th=
e
>>>> /home/torben/gaf/pcb-elements file?
>>>>
>>>> The pins in my screw terminals are =C3=B8 1 mm - is that OK with mors_=
3p.fp
>>>> (I dont know how to read a fp-file)?
>>>>
>>>> best regards
>>>> torben
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:09 AM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com)
>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Most users, myself included, set up a template, for a per-project
>>>>> directory, which has the needed gafrc etc files, and subdirectories w=
ith
>>>>> their local foorprints and symbols.
>>>>>
>>>>> This keeps a given design safe from filesystem changes or changes to
>>>>> elements subsequently.
>>>>>
>>>>> It also means that once set up, it doesn't need to be thought about
>>>>> much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some examples on github which should show you how to aim the
>>>>> layout editor at a partucular directory, i.e. "fp" or "packages" in t=
hese
>>>>> examples
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/miloh/gEDA-git-template
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/nocko/gEDA-template
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/wojciechk8/geda-sym
>>>>>
>>>>> These examples should show you how it can be done
>>>>>
>>>>> Erich.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 01:16 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com], <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Erich Heinzie,
>>>>>> I think so. If I may reformulate it to show that I understand:
>>>>>> The PICAXE14M.sym file contains a statement: footprint unknown. When
>>>>>> I enter the symbol on the schematic I add the footprint attribute DI=
P14.
>>>>>> The PCB program then picks it up from tha Symbol file and find the D=
IP14
>>>>>> footprint from /home/gaf/pcb-elements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then the files:
>>>>>> /home/gaf/gschem-sym
>>>>>> (ls /home/gaf/gschem-sym
>>>>>> PICAXE-14M.sym)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /home/gaf/pcb-elements
>>>>>> (ls /home/gaf/pcb-elements
>>>>>> DIP14.fp)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /home/.gEDA/gafrc
>>>>>> (cat /home/.gEDA/gafrc
>>>>>> (component-library-search "/home/gaf/gschem-sym")
>>>>>>
>>>>>> should do the job?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But then, when I have filled in the files, how do I make the
>>>>>> PICAXE14M.sym appear correctly in the add->component list?:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Basic devices
>>>>>> > Connectors (generic)
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to understand the stuff completely and really appreciate your
>>>>>> help.
>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:41 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In general, gschem is unaware of footprint file names, or the
>>>>>>> details of any other attributes you attach to a symbol from a symbo=
l library
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The usual procedure, after adding your symbol to the schematic from
>>>>>>> a library, is to add an "attribute" to the symbol, in this case a
>>>>>>> "footprint" attribute, equal to "DIP14"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The schematic file will end up with an ectra attribute within the
>>>>>>> picaxe instance, along the libes of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "footprint=3DDIP18"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The PCB layout editor, when you proceed to lay out uour design, is
>>>>>>> the software that has an understanding of footprint attributes, and=
will
>>>>>>> search its library paths for a DIP18
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does that help?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Erich
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:51 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com], <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Erich Heinzie,
>>>>>>>> It should have been:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /home/gaf/DIP14.fp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (component-library-search "/home/gaf/gschem-sym") in the /home/.gE=
DA/gafrc file
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I still have the problem of having PICAXE14M not showing up in the=
libraries list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When in http://www.gedasymbols.org/ i search for screw terminal I =
get a lot of .fp files, but no .sym files. How should they be handled?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is rather confusing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:44 AM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Erich Heinzie,
>>>>>>>>> After following your advice (a long time ago) I have the followin=
g:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /home/gaf/gschem-sym/PICAXE-14M.sym
>>>>>>>>> /home/gaf/pcb-elements/SIP3.fp
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (component-library-search "../gschem-sym") in the /home/.gEDA$/ga=
frc file
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Should not PICAXE-14M show up in Libraries when I click Add->Comp=
onent in gEDA schmatic?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:19 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com=
)
>>>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M=
.sym?dl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The above link will download the raw symbol file as a .sym for
>>>>>>>>>> use in the gschem schematic editor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The DIP14 footprint required in the pcb layout editor will be a
>>>>>>>>>> .fp file and the raw file can be downloaded from
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp?dl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can place the respective files in the same directory as your
>>>>>>>>>> schematic and pcb layout, but most people will use dedicated dir=
ectories in
>>>>>>>>>> their project directory for symbols and for footprints.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Erich
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 02:34 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> I found DIP14:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ cat /home/torben/gEDAsym
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib.cgi?geda
>>>>>>>>>>> <here
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It looks different from your file if I view it..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Where should I store the file you sent (if it is the file I
>>>>>>>>>>> should store)?
>>>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (
>>>>>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <
>>>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-1=
4M.sym
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the package is a 14-pin DIP, so "DIP14" should
>>>>>>>>>>>> work as the footprint.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:11 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT co=
m)
>>>>>>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot find
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. I have been looking for .../newlib and found it in two pl=
aces, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> neither one appeared to provide it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there anywhere else I can look for it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Erich,</div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">That =
helped a lot! <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:a=
rial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I now have:</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:lar=
ge"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:large">ls /home/torben/gaf/gschem-sym<br>2_SCREW_=
CONNECTOR.sym =C2=A03_SCREW_CONNECTOR.sym =C2=A0PICAXE-14M.sym</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-=
size:large">ls /home/torben/gaf/pcb-elements<br>DIP14.fp =C2=A0mors_2p.fp =
=C2=A0mors_3p.fp <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
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ica,sans-serif;font-size:large">local</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
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double-click the empty space at the top, I get:</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
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ns-serif;font-size:large">2_SCREW_CONNECTOR.sym</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
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CREW_CONNECTOR.sym</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:a=
rial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">PICAXE-14M</div><div class=3D"gm=
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e"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvet=
ica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Now I am supposed to enter:</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,=
helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">gschem one.sch</div><div class=3D"gma=
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"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:large">When I do I get error messages about a missi=
ng one.sch and the curser goes to the next line. Actually that is not surpr=
ising considering that that one.sch does not yet exist.</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:la=
rge">When I then fill in the schema and run /home/torben/gaf/myproject3/gsc=
h2pcb project I get the error message:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
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iv><font size=3D"4">No elements found, so nothing to do</font>.</div><div><=
br></div><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large" class=3D"gmail_default">I have saved one.sch so that is another su=
rprise - can you help?</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_default">best regards</div><div style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large" class=3D"gmail_=
default">torben<br></div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
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ize:large"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 1:14 AM Erich Heinzle (<a href=
=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail DOT com">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mail=
to:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:=
geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Rather t=
han learning to read the x and y coordinates in=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto=
"><pre>Pin[-20000 0 11810 2000 12610 4920 "0" "_1_" &qu=
ot;square"]
Pin[0 0 11810 2000 12610 4920 "0" "_2_" ""]
Pin[20000 0 11810 2000 12610 4920 "0" "_3_" ""=
;]
</pre>The simplest thing is to open the footprint file in the layout editor=
and use the cursor and or the measure function to determine distances.</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If you want to learn about =
the format, I recommend</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
<a href=3D"http://www.ssalewski.de/PcbFootprintRef.txt" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://www.ssalewski.de/PcbFootprintRef.txt</a><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto">Erich<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 06:37 Torben Friis (<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">friist=
f AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>], <<a href=3D"mailto:=
geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delor=
ie.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Erich,</div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:large">Where do I find the hole spacing and the hole size in yo=
u fp:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><pre>Element[&q=
uot;" "N MORS 3P " "" "" 0 0 0 -23000 0 =
100 ""]
(
ElementLine[-30000 18000 -30000 14000 1000]
ElementLine[-30000 14000 30000 14000 1000]
ElementLine[30000 14000 30000 18000 1000]
ElementLine[30000 18000 -30000 18000 1000]
ElementLine[-30000 -18000 -30000 -15000 1000]
ElementLine[-30000 -18000 30000 -18000 1000]
ElementLine[30000 -18000 30000 -15000 1000]
ElementLine[-30000 15000 -30000 -15000 1000]
ElementLine[30000 15000 30000 -15000 1000]
Pin[-20000 0 11810 2000 12610 4920 "0" "_1_" "squa=
re"]
Pin[0 0 11810 2000 12610 4920 "0" "_2_" ""]
Pin[20000 0 11810 2000 12610 4920 "0" "_3_" ""=
;]
)<br></pre><pre>best regards<br></pre><pre>torben<br></pre></div></div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Ju=
l 20, 2019 at 2:25 PM Erich Heinzle (<a href=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail DOT com" =
rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>) [vi=
a <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help@=
delorie.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delo=
rie.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Good work on the file system.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I usually create a project directory =
and put my usual/frequently used footprints in the packages or fp subdirect=
ory, depending on the naming convention in the template being used.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The main thing is to ensure tha=
t the=C2=A0 screw terminals you are using are spaced 0.2 inches apart. The =
hole and annulus sizes can be easily modified in the layout editor, but pin=
spacing is harder to modify in an existing footprint. You should always ch=
eck that footprints you source from elsewhere have sane annuli and hole siz=
es before sending off the board for fabrication.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto">You are right, any three pin symbol can map to a t=
hree pin footprint, provided that the pin labels on the footprint are sane.=
Sometimes imported symbols like the one you mention need to have the pin n=
ame changed to "1" instead of "_1_" etc... To make the =
netlist behave when imported into the layout editor.<br><br>Regards,</div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Erich<br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote" dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 20 Jul=
2019 19:22 Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"noref=
errer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"=
mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blan=
k">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>], <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com"=
rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:=
large">Hi Erich Heinzle,<br>I solved the immediate problem by changing the =
file system to:.<br><br><br>/home/torben/gaf/gschem-sym<br>/home/torben/gaf=
/pcb-elements<br>/home/torben/.gEDA/gafrc<br>(cat /home/torben/.gEDA/gafrc<=
br>(component-library-search "/home/torben/gaf/gschem-sym")<br><b=
r>but I will setup my system as you have set up yours.<br><br>I need to hav=
e some screw terminals set up and I found yours:<br><br>/user/erich_heinzle=
/kicad/footprints/w_conn_screw.mod/mors_3p.fp<br><br>I could not find the c=
orresponding sym file. Is there one?<br><br>I suppose I can use any(!) sym =
file as long as I set footprint to mors_3p.fp in the sym file and enter /us=
er/erich_heinzle/kicad/footprints/w_conn_screw.mod/mors_3p.fp in the /home/=
torben/gaf/pcb-elements file?<br><br>The pins in my screw terminals are =C3=
=B8 1 mm - is that OK with mors_3p.fp (I dont know how to read a fp-file)?<=
br><br>best regards<br>torben</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:09 AM Erich He=
inzle (<a href=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto=
:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie.=
com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT d=
elorie.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Most users, myself included,=
set up a template, for a per-project directory, which has the needed gafrc=
etc files, and subdirectories with their local foorprints and symbols.</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">This keeps a given design s=
afe from filesystem changes or changes to elements subsequently.</div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">It also means that once set up, it=
doesn't need to be thought about much.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">Here are some examples on github which should show you =
how to aim the layout editor at a partucular directory, i.e. "fp"=
or "packages" in these examples</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://github.com/miloh/gEDA-git-template" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.co=
m/miloh/gEDA-git-template</a><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://github.com/nocko/gEDA-template" rel=3D"norefer=
rer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/nocko/gEDA-=
template</a><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><a href=
=3D"https://github.com/wojciechk8/geda-sym" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/wojciechk8/geda-sym</a><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">These examples should sh=
ow you how it can be done</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto=
">Erich.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 01:16 Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:f=
riistf AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=
=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT c=
om</a>], <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer nor=
eferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi E=
rich Heinzie,<br>I think so. If I may reformulate it to show that I underst=
and:<br>The PICAXE14M.sym file contains a statement: footprint unknown. Whe=
n I enter the symbol on the schematic I add the footprint attribute DIP14. =
The PCB program then picks it up from tha Symbol file and find the DIP14 fo=
otprint from /home/gaf/pcb-elements.<br><br>Then the files:<br>/home/gaf/gs=
chem-sym<br>(ls /home/gaf/gschem-sym<br>PICAXE-14M.sym)<br><br>/home/gaf/pc=
b-elements<br>(ls /home/gaf/pcb-elements<br>DIP14.fp)<br><br>/home/.gEDA/ga=
frc<br>(cat /home/.gEDA/gafrc<br>(component-library-search "/home/gaf/=
gschem-sym")<br><br>should do the job?<br><br>But then, when I have fi=
lled in the files, how do I make the PICAXE14M.sym appear correctly in the =
add->component list?:<br><br>> Basic devices<br>> Connectors (gene=
ric)<br>.<br>.<br>.<br><br>I want to understand the stuff completely and re=
ally appreciate your help.<br>best regards<br>torben</div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 19, 2=
019 at 12:41 PM Erich Heinzle (<a href=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D=
"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">a1039181 AT gm=
ail.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferre=
r noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe=
rrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>>=
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto">In general, gschem is unaware of footprint file names, or the det=
ails of any other attributes you attach to a symbol from a symbol library<d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The usual procedure, after addi=
ng your symbol to the schematic from a library, is to add an "attribut=
e" to the symbol, in this case a "footprint" attribute, equa=
l to "DIP14"</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">T=
he schematic file will end up with an ectra attribute within the picaxe ins=
tance, along the libes of</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto=
">"footprint=3DDIP18"</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">The PCB layout editor, when you proceed to lay out uour design, i=
s the software that has an understanding of footprint attributes, and will =
search its library paths for a DIP18=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto">Does that=C2=A0help?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Erich</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l_attr">On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:51 Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT g=
mail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-h=
elp AT delorie DOT com</a>], <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT del=
orie.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:large">Hi Erich Heinzie,</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,=
helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">It should have been:</div><div style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">/home/gaf/=
DIP14.fp</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:large">and<br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:large"><pre class=3D"gmail-m_1868580549148386304m_7413857808=
226013590m_189777687750480261gmail-m_7174615266101921091gmail-m_-6811915406=
325326106m_5811983186306912133gmail-m_-3548951900411599412m_-86919069444679=
73354gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-527876203559=
6455616gmail-code">(component-library-search "/home/gaf/gschem-sym&quo=
t;) in the /home/.gEDA/gafrc file<br><br></pre><pre class=3D"gmail-m_186858=
0549148386304m_7413857808226013590m_189777687750480261gmail-m_7174615266101=
921091gmail-m_-6811915406325326106m_5811983186306912133gmail-m_-35489519004=
11599412m_-8691906944467973354gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-787893554854014=
5437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">I still have the problem of hav=
ing PICAXE14M not showing up in the libraries list.<br><br></pre><pre class=
=3D"gmail-m_1868580549148386304m_7413857808226013590m_189777687750480261gma=
il-m_7174615266101921091gmail-m_-6811915406325326106m_5811983186306912133gm=
ail-m_-3548951900411599412m_-8691906944467973354gmail-m_1492610957059271095=
m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">When in <a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer =
noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/</a> i =
search for screw terminal I get a lot of .fp files, but no .sym files. How =
should they be handled?<br></pre><pre class=3D"gmail-m_1868580549148386304m=
_7413857808226013590m_189777687750480261gmail-m_7174615266101921091gmail-m_=
-6811915406325326106m_5811983186306912133gmail-m_-3548951900411599412m_-869=
1906944467973354gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5=
278762035596455616gmail-code">It is rather confusing.<br></pre><pre class=
=3D"gmail-m_1868580549148386304m_7413857808226013590m_189777687750480261gma=
il-m_7174615266101921091gmail-m_-6811915406325326106m_5811983186306912133gm=
ail-m_-3548951900411599412m_-8691906944467973354gmail-m_1492610957059271095=
m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">best regards<=
br></pre><pre class=3D"gmail-m_1868580549148386304m_7413857808226013590m_18=
9777687750480261gmail-m_7174615266101921091gmail-m_-6811915406325326106m_58=
11983186306912133gmail-m_-3548951900411599412m_-8691906944467973354gmail-m_=
1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-=
code">torben<br></pre><pre class=3D"gmail-m_1868580549148386304m_7413857808=
226013590m_189777687750480261gmail-m_7174615266101921091gmail-m_-6811915406=
325326106m_5811983186306912133gmail-m_-3548951900411599412m_-86919069444679=
73354gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-527876203559=
6455616gmail-code"><br><br></pre></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:44 AM Tor=
ben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe=
rrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com<=
/a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:large">Hi Erich Heinzie,</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large">After following your advice (a long time ago) =
I have the following:</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large">/home/gaf/gschem-sym/PICAXE-14M.sym</div><div st=
yle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">/home/gaf/pc=
b-elements/SIP3.fp</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:large"><pre class=3D"gmail-m_1868580549148386304m_7413857808226=
013590m_189777687750480261gmail-m_7174615266101921091gmail-m_-6811915406325=
326106m_5811983186306912133gmail-m_-3548951900411599412m_-86919069444679733=
54gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-527876203559645=
5616gmail-code">(component-library-search "../gschem-sym") in the=
/home/.gEDA$/gafrc file<br><br></pre><pre class=3D"gmail-m_186858054914838=
6304m_7413857808226013590m_189777687750480261gmail-m_7174615266101921091gma=
il-m_-6811915406325326106m_5811983186306912133gmail-m_-3548951900411599412m=
_-8691906944467973354gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail=
-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">Should not PICAXE-14M show up in Librari=
es when I click Add->Component in gEDA schmatic?<br></pre><pre class=3D"=
gmail-m_1868580549148386304m_7413857808226013590m_189777687750480261gmail-m=
_7174615266101921091gmail-m_-6811915406325326106m_5811983186306912133gmail-=
m_-3548951900411599412m_-8691906944467973354gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-7=
878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">best regards<br><=
/pre><pre class=3D"gmail-m_1868580549148386304m_7413857808226013590m_189777=
687750480261gmail-m_7174615266101921091gmail-m_-6811915406325326106m_581198=
3186306912133gmail-m_-3548951900411599412m_-8691906944467973354gmail-m_1492=
610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code=
">torben<br></pre></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:19 PM Erich Heinzle (<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer n=
oreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer =
noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a =
href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferr=
er noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto"><div><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/sym=
bols/PICAXE-14M.sym?dl" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle=
/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?dl</a><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>The above link will download the raw symbol file as a .sym for use in the =
gschem schematic editor</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
The DIP14 footprint required in the pcb layout editor will be a .fp file an=
d the raw file can be downloaded from</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.=
fp?dl" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp?dl</a><br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">You can place the resp=
ective files in the same directory as your schematic and pcb layout, but mo=
st people will use dedicated directories in their project directory for sym=
bols and for footprints.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>Regards,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Erich</div><br=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 02:34 =
Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe=
rrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com<=
/a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe=
rrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie.=
com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer nor=
eferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delor=
ie.com</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,hel=
vetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I found DIP14:</div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben AT torben-Aspire=
-E5-773G:~$ cat /home/torben/gEDAsym<br><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.o=
rg/footprints/m4lib.cgi?geda" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noref=
errer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/f=
ootprints/m4lib.cgi?geda</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
<here<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html</a></div><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">It looks different from=
your file if I view it..</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:large">Where should I store the file you sent (if i=
t is the file I should store)?</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 14, 2019=
at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D=
"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help@=
delorie.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer =
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferr=
er noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://www.=
gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym" rel=3D"noreferre=
r noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym</a></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>It looks like the package is a 14-pin D=
IP, so "DIP14" should work as the footprint.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>--Chad<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:11 AM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:frii=
stf AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferre=
r noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mail=
to:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferre=
r noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<=
a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer norefe=
rrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie.=
com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:large">Hi ,</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:large">I have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot =
find it. I have been looking for .../newlib and found it in two places, but=
neither one appeared to provide it.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,h=
elvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Is there anywhere else I can look for =
it?</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:lar=
ge">torben<br></div></div>
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