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Hi Erich Heinzie,
I think so. If I may reformulate it to show that I understand:
The PICAXE14M.sym file contains a statement: footprint unknown. When I
enter the symbol on the schematic I add the footprint attribute DIP14. The
PCB program then picks it up from tha Symbol file and find the DIP14
footprint from /home/gaf/pcb-elements.
Then the files:
/home/gaf/gschem-sym
(ls /home/gaf/gschem-sym
PICAXE-14M.sym)
/home/gaf/pcb-elements
(ls /home/gaf/pcb-elements
DIP14.fp)
/home/.gEDA/gafrc
(cat /home/.gEDA/gafrc
(component-library-search "/home/gaf/gschem-sym")
should do the job?
But then, when I have filled in the files, how do I make the PICAXE14M.sym
appear correctly in the add->component list?:
> Basic devices
> Connectors (generic)
.
.
.
I want to understand the stuff completely and really appreciate your help.
best regards
torben
On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:41 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> In general, gschem is unaware of footprint file names, or the details of
> any other attributes you attach to a symbol from a symbol library
>
> The usual procedure, after adding your symbol to the schematic from a
> library, is to add an "attribute" to the symbol, in this case a "footprint"
> attribute, equal to "DIP14"
>
> The schematic file will end up with an ectra attribute within the picaxe
> instance, along the libes of
>
> "footprint=DIP18"
>
> The PCB layout editor, when you proceed to lay out uour design, is the
> software that has an understanding of footprint attributes, and will search
> its library paths for a DIP18
>
> Does that help?
>
> Erich
>
>
>
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:51 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
> geda-help AT delorie DOT com], <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Erich Heinzie,
>> It should have been:
>>
>> /home/gaf/DIP14.fp
>>
>> and
>>
>> (component-library-search "/home/gaf/gschem-sym") in the /home/.gEDA/gafrc file
>>
>> I still have the problem of having PICAXE14M not showing up in the libraries list.
>>
>> When in http://www.gedasymbols.org/ i search for screw terminal I get a lot of .fp files, but no .sym files. How should they be handled?
>>
>> It is rather confusing.
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> torben
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:44 AM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Erich Heinzie,
>>> After following your advice (a long time ago) I have the following:
>>>
>>> /home/gaf/gschem-sym/PICAXE-14M.sym
>>> /home/gaf/pcb-elements/SIP3.fp
>>>
>>> (component-library-search "../gschem-sym") in the /home/.gEDA$/gafrc file
>>>
>>> Should not PICAXE-14M show up in Libraries when I click Add->Component in gEDA schmatic?
>>>
>>> best regards
>>>
>>> torben
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:19 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?dl
>>>>
>>>> The above link will download the raw symbol file as a .sym for use in
>>>> the gschem schematic editor
>>>>
>>>> The DIP14 footprint required in the pcb layout editor will be a .fp
>>>> file and the raw file can be downloaded from
>>>>
>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp?dl
>>>>
>>>> You can place the respective files in the same directory as your
>>>> schematic and pcb layout, but most people will use dedicated directories in
>>>> their project directory for symbols and for footprints.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Erich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 02:34 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I found DIP14:
>>>>>
>>>>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ cat /home/torben/gEDAsym
>>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib.cgi?geda
>>>>> <here
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks different from your file if I view it..
>>>>>
>>>>> Where should I store the file you sent (if it is the file I should
>>>>> store)?
>>>>> torben
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like the package is a 14-pin DIP, so "DIP14" should work as
>>>>>> the footprint.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:11 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi ,
>>>>>>> I have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot find it. I
>>>>>>> have been looking for .../newlib and found it in two places, but neither
>>>>>>> one appeared to provide it.
>>>>>>> Is there anywhere else I can look for it?
>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Erich Heinzie,<br>I think so. If I m=
ay reformulate it to show that I understand:<br>The PICAXE14M.sym file cont=
ains a statement: footprint unknown. When I enter the symbol on the schemat=
ic I add the footprint attribute DIP14. The PCB program then picks it up fr=
om tha Symbol file and find the DIP14 footprint from /home/gaf/pcb-elements=
.<br><br>Then the files:<br>/home/gaf/gschem-sym<br>(ls /home/gaf/gschem-sy=
m<br>PICAXE-14M.sym)<br><br>/home/gaf/pcb-elements<br>(ls /home/gaf/pcb-ele=
ments<br>DIP14.fp)<br><br>/home/.gEDA/gafrc<br>(cat /home/.gEDA/gafrc<br>(c=
omponent-library-search "/home/gaf/gschem-sym")<br><br>should do =
the job?<br><br>But then, when I have filled in the files, how do I make th=
e PICAXE14M.sym appear correctly in the add->component list?:<br><br>>=
; Basic devices<br>> Connectors (generic)<br>.<br>.<br>.<br><br>I want t=
o understand the stuff completely and really appreciate your help.<br>best =
regards<br>torben</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:41 PM Erich Heinzle (<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail DOT com">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"m=
ailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mail=
to:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">In general=
, gschem is unaware of footprint file names, or the details of any other at=
tributes you attach to a symbol from a symbol library<div dir=3D"auto"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto">The usual procedure, after adding your symbol to th=
e schematic from a library, is to add an "attribute" to the symbo=
l, in this case a "footprint" attribute, equal to "DIP14&quo=
t;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The schematic file wi=
ll end up with an ectra attribute within the picaxe instance, along the lib=
es of</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">"footprint=3D=
DIP18"</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The PCB layo=
ut editor, when you proceed to lay out uour design, is the software that ha=
s an understanding of footprint attributes, and will search its library pat=
hs for a DIP18=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Doe=
s that=C2=A0help?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Erich<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div><br><div=
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, 19 Jul=
2019 18:51 Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_b=
lank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" =
target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>], <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-he=
lp AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:large">Hi Erich Heinzie,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">It should have =
been:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">/home/gaf/DIP14=
.fp</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,=
sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">and<br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:large"><pre class=3D"gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-78789355485401454=
37gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">(component-library-search "/=
home/gaf/gschem-sym") in the /home/.gEDA/gafrc file<br><br></pre><pre =
class=3D"gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-52787620=
35596455616gmail-code">I still have the problem of having PICAXE14M not sho=
wing up in the libraries list.<br><br></pre><pre class=3D"gmail-m_149261095=
7059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">Whe=
n in <a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/</a> i search for screw terminal I get a =
lot of .fp files, but no .sym files. How should they be handled?<br></pre><=
pre class=3D"gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278=
762035596455616gmail-code">It is rather confusing.<br></pre><pre class=3D"g=
mail-m_1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-527876203559645561=
6gmail-code">best regards<br></pre><pre class=3D"gmail-m_149261095705927109=
5m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">torben<br></=
pre><pre class=3D"gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_=
-5278762035596455616gmail-code"><br><br></pre></div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at=
11:44 AM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:lar=
ge">Hi Erich Heinzie,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">After following your advice (=
a long time ago) I have the following:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;=
font-size:large">/home/gaf/gschem-sym/PICAXE-14M.sym</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large=
">/home/gaf/pcb-elements/SIP3.fp</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><pre class=3D"gmai=
l-m_1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gm=
ail-code">(component-library-search "../gschem-sym") in the /home=
/.gEDA$/gafrc file<br><br></pre><pre class=3D"gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_=
-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">Should not PICA=
XE-14M show up in Libraries when I click Add->Component in gEDA schmatic=
?<br></pre><pre class=3D"gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437g=
mail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">best regards<br></pre><pre class=3D"=
gmail-m_1492610957059271095m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-52787620355964556=
16gmail-code">torben<br></pre></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:19 PM Erich H=
einzle (<a href=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT co=
m" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">g=
eda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbol=
s.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?dl" rel=3D"noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-=
14M.sym?dl</a><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The above link =
will download the raw symbol file as a .sym for use in the gschem schematic=
editor</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The DIP14 footpr=
int required in the pcb layout editor will be a .fp file and the raw file c=
an be downloaded from</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><a=
href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp?dl" rel=3D"no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP=
14.fp?dl</a><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">You can=
place the respective files in the same directory as your schematic and pcb=
layout, but most people will use dedicated directories in their project di=
rectory for symbols and for footprints.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>Erich</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, 15 =
Feb 2019 02:34 Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:g=
eda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delori=
e.com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font=
-size:large">Hi,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:ari=
al,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I found DIP14:</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:la=
rge"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ cat /home=
/torben/gEDAsym<br><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib.c=
gi?geda" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasym=
bols.org/footprints/m4lib.cgi?geda</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 <here<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/c=
vs.html</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">It looks d=
ifferent from your file if I view it..</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;=
font-size:large">Where should I store the file you sent (if it is the file =
I should store)?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:ari=
al,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb =
14, 2019 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com=
" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com<=
/a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:ge=
da-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-h=
elp AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14=
M.sym" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbo=
ls.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div>It looks like the package is a 14-pin DIP, so "DIP14&qu=
ot; should work as the footprint.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>=
Cheers,</div><div>--Chad<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div><br><div=
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 14=
, 2019 at 9:11 AM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D=
"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie=
.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi ,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I have bee=
n looking fo the above element, but I cannot find it. I have been looking f=
or .../newlib and found it in two places, but neither one appeared to provi=
de it.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:large">Is there anywhere else I can look for it?</d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div>
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