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| From: | "Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com>
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| Date: | Fri, 19 Jul 2019 19:47:15 +0930
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In general, gschem is unaware of footprint file names, or the details of
any other attributes you attach to a symbol from a symbol library
The usual procedure, after adding your symbol to the schematic from a
library, is to add an "attribute" to the symbol, in this case a "footprint"
attribute, equal to "DIP14"
The schematic file will end up with an ectra attribute within the picaxe
instance, along the libes of
"footprint=DIP18"
The PCB layout editor, when you proceed to lay out uour design, is the
software that has an understanding of footprint attributes, and will search
its library paths for a DIP18
Does that help?
Erich
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:51 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com], <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> Hi Erich Heinzie,
> It should have been:
>
> /home/gaf/DIP14.fp
>
> and
>
> (component-library-search "/home/gaf/gschem-sym") in the /home/.gEDA/gafrc file
>
> I still have the problem of having PICAXE14M not showing up in the libraries list.
>
> When in http://www.gedasymbols.org/ i search for screw terminal I get a lot of .fp files, but no .sym files. How should they be handled?
>
> It is rather confusing.
>
> best regards
>
> torben
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:44 AM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Erich Heinzie,
>> After following your advice (a long time ago) I have the following:
>>
>> /home/gaf/gschem-sym/PICAXE-14M.sym
>> /home/gaf/pcb-elements/SIP3.fp
>>
>> (component-library-search "../gschem-sym") in the /home/.gEDA$/gafrc file
>>
>> Should not PICAXE-14M show up in Libraries when I click Add->Component in gEDA schmatic?
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> torben
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:19 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via
>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?dl
>>>
>>> The above link will download the raw symbol file as a .sym for use in
>>> the gschem schematic editor
>>>
>>> The DIP14 footprint required in the pcb layout editor will be a .fp file
>>> and the raw file can be downloaded from
>>>
>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp?dl
>>>
>>> You can place the respective files in the same directory as your
>>> schematic and pcb layout, but most people will use dedicated directories in
>>> their project directory for symbols and for footprints.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Erich
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 02:34 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I found DIP14:
>>>>
>>>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ cat /home/torben/gEDAsym
>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib.cgi?geda
>>>> <here
>>>>
>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html
>>>>
>>>> It looks different from your file if I view it..
>>>>
>>>> Where should I store the file you sent (if it is the file I should
>>>> store)?
>>>> torben
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like the package is a 14-pin DIP, so "DIP14" should work as
>>>>> the footprint.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:11 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi ,
>>>>>> I have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot find it. I
>>>>>> have been looking for .../newlib and found it in two places, but neither
>>>>>> one appeared to provide it.
>>>>>> Is there anywhere else I can look for it?
>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">In general, gschem is unaware of footprint file names, or=
the details of any other attributes you attach to a symbol from a symbol l=
ibrary<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The usual procedure, af=
ter adding your symbol to the schematic from a library, is to add an "=
attribute" to the symbol, in this case a "footprint" attribu=
te, equal to "DIP14"</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">The schematic file will end up with an ectra attribute within the pi=
caxe instance, along the libes of</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">"footprint=3DDIP18"</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">The PCB layout editor, when you proceed to lay out uour des=
ign, is the software that has an understanding of footprint attributes, and=
will search its library paths for a DIP18=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto">Does that=C2=A0help?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto">Erich</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:51 Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:f=
riistf AT gmail DOT com">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT d=
elorie.com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>], <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT del=
orie.com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Erich Heinzie,</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;=
font-size:large">It should have been:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:large">/home/gaf/DIP14.fp</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:large">and<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><pre class=3D"m_-787893554854=
0145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">(component-library-search &q=
uot;/home/gaf/gschem-sym") in the /home/.gEDA/gafrc file<br><br></pre>=
<pre class=3D"m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code"=
>I still have the problem of having PICAXE14M not showing up in the librari=
es list.<br><br></pre><pre class=3D"m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-52787620=
35596455616gmail-code">When in <a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://www.gedasymbols.org/</a> i search f=
or screw terminal I get a lot of .fp files, but no .sym files. How should t=
hey be handled?<br></pre><pre class=3D"m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-52787=
62035596455616gmail-code">It is rather confusing.<br></pre><pre class=3D"m_=
-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">best regards<br=
></pre><pre class=3D"m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmai=
l-code">torben<br></pre><pre class=3D"m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-527876=
2035596455616gmail-code"><br><br></pre></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 11:44 =
AM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi =
Erich Heinzie,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial=
,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">After following your advice (a long =
time ago) I have the following:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:large">/home/gaf/gschem-sym/PICAXE-14M.sym</div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">/home=
/gaf/pcb-elements/SIP3.fp</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><pre class=3D"m_-78789355=
48540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">(component-library-searc=
h "../gschem-sym") in the /home/.gEDA$/gafrc file<br><br></pre><p=
re class=3D"m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">S=
hould not PICAXE-14M show up in Libraries when I click Add->Component in=
gEDA schmatic?<br></pre><pre class=3D"m_-7878935548540145437gmail-m_-52787=
62035596455616gmail-code">best regards<br></pre><pre class=3D"m_-7878935548=
540145437gmail-m_-5278762035596455616gmail-code">torben<br></pre></div></di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On F=
ri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:19 PM Erich Heinzle (<a href=3D"mailto:a1039181 AT gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">a1039181 AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a =
href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">=
geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><d=
iv><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-=
14M.sym?dl" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://www.gedasymbols.org=
/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?dl</a><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">The above link will download the raw symbol file as a .=
sym for use in the gschem schematic editor</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto">The DIP14 footprint required in the pcb layout editor wi=
ll be a .fp file and the raw file can be downloaded from</div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols.org/foot=
prints/m4lib/DIP14.fp?dl" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://www.g=
edasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp?dl</a><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto">You can place the respective files in the same =
directory as your schematic and pcb layout, but most people will use dedica=
ted directories in their project directory for symbols and for footprints.<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards,</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Erich</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 02:34 Torben Friis (<a href=
=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">friistf@=
gmail.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:ged=
a-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">geda-help AT delorie.=
com</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:la=
rge">I found DIP14:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">to=
rben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ cat /home/torben/gEDAsym<br><a href=3D"http:/=
/www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib.cgi?geda" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib.cgi?geda</=
a>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <here<br><br><a href=3D=
"http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html</a></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large">It looks different from your file if I view i=
t..</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,=
sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Where should I sto=
re the file you sent (if it is the file I should store)?</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge">torben<br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (=
<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-=
help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help=
@delorie.com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noref=
errer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbol=
s.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols=
/PICAXE-14M.sym</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>It looks like the =
package is a 14-pin DIP, so "DIP14" should work as the footprint.=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>--Chad<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:11 AM Torben Friis =
(<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie=
.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge">Hi ,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,hel=
vetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I have been looking fo the above element=
, but I cannot find it. I have been looking for .../newlib and found it in =
two places, but neither one appeared to provide it.</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"=
>Is there anywhere else I can look for it?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
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