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Torben-
Look under the "Setup" section of the tutorial where he talks about setting
up a project directory structure.
http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial#setup
"in each project directory (like myproject1 and myproject2) there could be
a *gafrc* file..."
--Chad
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:14 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> Hi Chad,
> Before I got your reply I had prepared the following:
> I might add that I have added "picaxe" to /usr/share/gEDA/sym/ with the
> following 3 symbols:
>
> SIP3.fp
> SIP4.fp
> SO8W.fp
>
> but picaxe does not show up under Library.
>
> I have followed BW's tutorial, but I do not have a gafrc file. How do I
> get that?
> torben
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:43 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chad,
>> In gschem I only have "library" to chose symbols from. I wanted more -
>> fx. newlib. How do I get it?
>>
>> I have used the instructions in:
>>
>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html
>>
>> to place the following:
>>
>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G: ls /home/geda
>> CVS CVSROOT scripts www
>>
>> where /home/geda was an empty directory.
>>
>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/home/geda/scripts$ ls
>> 2pad.cgi dilpad.cgi footprint.pcb reindex
>> cgi-lib.pl eps2png global_list.cgi search.cgi
>> csv.cgi footprint.cgi make-fp-library symbol.cgi
>> CVS footprint.html math.pl symbol.html
>>
>> Can I get from this to a more comprehensive list of symbols in gschem? I
>> am stuck.
>> best regards
>> torben
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:58 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chad,
>>> OK. I will try again.
>>> torben
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:45 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Torben-
>>>>
>>>> The square terminal generally indicates "pin 1" of the device. This is
>>>> done so that when you're installing the components, you know the proper
>>>> orientation. For some parts this is important, like for the opamps in the
>>>> design. For other parts, like the resistors, it doesn't matter, they can go
>>>> either way.
>>>>
>>>> Part of the fun of building a circuit board is figuring out where to
>>>> place the components and how to connect them, kind of like a puzzle, but
>>>> with no one answer. You can place them however you like. Many people use a
>>>> strategy where you try to place the parts such that you minimize the
>>>> lengths of the traces connecting those parts. You could also arrange them
>>>> in a pattern to resemble a bug, or a star, or anything you find
>>>> aesthetically pleasing. In most cases (i.e. not radio frequency or high
>>>> speed (>10s of MHz) digital electronics), the exact placement of parts
>>>> doesn't matter.
>>>>
>>>> --Chad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 9:32 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>> Should I place R101, R102 and R103 together? And if I do, should'nt
>>>>> R103 have round terminal points at both ends? I assume that the square ones
>>>>> are to be connected to the GND.
>>>>> I am not an electronics expert.
>>>>> torben
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Torben-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, I see what you're referring to. This is a bug in the tutorial.
>>>>>> It looks to me like the first set of figures were created with an older
>>>>>> version of PCB and the other set with a newer one and a later date. What
>>>>>> likely happened is that the same circuit was used, but the schematic was
>>>>>> redrawn when the new figures were added, and because the parts would have
>>>>>> been arranged differently, the reference designators ended up changing. The
>>>>>> underlying circuit appears to be the same, just the names of the parts have
>>>>>> been swapped. You can even see that the footprint of R101 is different.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ultimately, the rat lines on your pcb should be consistent with the
>>>>>> connections you made in the schematic. So, as long as you connect your
>>>>>> parts accordingly, you should be fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for pointing this out. We should fix it so that it's
>>>>>> consistent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:36 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>>>> The link is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial
>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (
>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <
>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Torben-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm
>>>>>>>> not sure what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a link to the
>>>>>>>> tutorial you're referring to?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>>>>>> I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.
>>>>>>>>> In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page
>>>>>>>>> 6 R102, R201 and R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is
>>>>>>>>> placed where R201 was before.
>>>>>>>>> I have other problems - fx with lines created in PCB - but I would
>>>>>>>>> take one example to see if the confusion is my problem.
>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>>>>>>> I deleted all files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran
>>>>>>>>>> gsch2pcb once - and it worked.
>>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (
>>>>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <
>>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Torben-
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences.
>>>>>>>>>>> The first time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to
>>>>>>>>>>> footprint name errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run
>>>>>>>>>>> it, it produces board.*new*.pcb, which contains the new
>>>>>>>>>>> elements, so that it doesn't overwrite your original file. To get them into
>>>>>>>>>>> the layout, you have to do as it says: open the layout then go to the file
>>>>>>>>>>> menu, select "load layout data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb.
>>>>>>>>>>> Then you can paste them into the layout.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you
>>>>>>>>>>> can delete board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements,
>>>>>>>>>>> as sometimes the elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Done processing. Work performed:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Next steps:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Run pcb on your file board.pcb.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. From within PCB, select "File -> Load layout data to paste
>>>>>>>>>>>> buffer"
>>>>>>>>>>>> and select board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into
>>>>>>>>>>>> your existing layout.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and
>>>>>>>>>>>> select
>>>>>>>>>>>> board.net to load the updated netlist.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. From within PCB, enter
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to update the pin names of all footprints.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> First it does not tally with the description given in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> tutorial - I am using the one that comes with Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt I
>>>>>>>>>>>> get both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add the
>>>>>>>>>>>> one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As I say, I am confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>> best ergards
>>>>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (
>>>>>>>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Torben-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions you may have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> element, so, it's not generating it the way the tutorial thinks it should.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, a footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purposes. Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if that fixes it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my first attempt at using geda-help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsch2pcb project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get the following message in the log:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONN202: can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (value=unknown).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The attributes of the connector are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device: BNC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refdes: CONN202
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>Loo=
k under the "Setup" section of the tutorial where he talks about =
setting up a project directory structure. <br></div><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial#setup">http://w=
iki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial#setup</a></div><div><br></div><=
div>"in each project directory (like myproject1 and myproject2) there =
could be a <strong>gafrc</strong> file..."</div><div><br></div><div>--=
Chad<br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">O=
n Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:14 AM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmai=
l.com">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com"=
>geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">ge=
da-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi =
Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large">Before I got your reply I had prepared the fo=
llowing:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I might add that I have added "picaxe=
" to /usr/share/gEDA/sym/ with the following 3 symbols:</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial=
,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">SIP3.fp</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">SIP4=
.fp</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,=
sans-serif;font-size:large">SO8W.fp</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:large">but picaxe does not show up under Library.</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,hel=
vetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I have followed BW's tutorial, but I=
do not have a gafrc file. How do I get that?<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">t=
orben<br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:43 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,<br>In gschem I only have "library"=
; to chose symbols from. I wanted more - fx. newlib. How do I get it?<br><b=
r>I have used the instructions in:<br><br><a href=3D"http://www.gedasymbols=
.org/cvs.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html</a><br=
><br>to place the following:<br><br>torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G: ls /home/=
geda<br>CVS=C2=A0 CVSROOT=C2=A0 scripts=C2=A0 www<br><br>where /home/geda w=
as an empty directory.<br><br>torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/home/geda/scrip=
ts$ ls<br>2pad.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 dilpad.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 footprint.pcb=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 reindex<br><a href=3D"http://cgi-lib.pl=
" target=3D"_blank">cgi-lib.pl</a>=C2=A0 eps2png=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 global_list.cgi=C2=A0 search.cgi<br>csv.cgi=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprint.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0 make-fp-library=C2=A0 symbol.cgi<=
br>CVS=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprint.html=C2=A0=
<a href=3D"http://math.pl" target=3D"_blank">math.pl</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 symbol.html<br><br>Can I get from this=
to a more comprehensive list of symbols in gschem? I am stuck.<br>best reg=
ards<br>torben<br><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:58 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">OK. I will try again.</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:45 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</=
a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-he=
lp AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"=
_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</div><div><br></=
div><div>The square terminal generally indicates "pin 1" of the d=
evice. This is done so that when you're installing the components, you =
know the proper orientation. For some parts this is important, like for the=
opamps in the design. For other parts, like the resistors, it doesn't =
matter, they can go either way.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Part of the fu=
n of building a circuit board is figuring out where to place the components=
and how to connect them, kind of like a puzzle, but with no one answer. Yo=
u can place them however you like. Many people use a strategy where you try=
to place the parts such that you minimize the lengths of the traces connec=
ting those parts. You could also arrange them in a pattern to resemble a bu=
g, or a star, or anything you find aesthetically pleasing. In most cases (i=
.e. not radio frequency or high speed (>10s of MHz) digital electronics)=
, the exact placement of parts doesn't matter.<br></div><div><br></div>=
<div>--Chad<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 9:32 AM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mail=
to:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=
=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</=
a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-hel=
p AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">Should I place R101, R102 and R103 together? And if I do, should&#=
39;nt R103 have round terminal points at both ends? I assume that the squar=
e ones are to be connected to the GND.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I am not an =
electronics expert.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM C=
had Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">p=
arker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" =
target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-hel=
p AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
>Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>Okay, I see what you're referring to.=
This is a bug in the tutorial. It looks to me like the first set of figure=
s were created with an older version of PCB and the other set with a newer =
one and a later date. What likely happened is that the same circuit was use=
d, but the schematic was redrawn when the new figures were added, and becau=
se the parts would have been arranged differently, the reference designator=
s ended up changing. The underlying circuit appears to be the same, just th=
e names of the parts have been swapped. You can even see that the footprint=
of R101 is different.</div><div><br></div><div>Ultimately, the rat lines o=
n your pcb should be consistent with the connections you made in the schema=
tic. So, as long as you connect your parts accordingly, you should be fine.=
<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for pointing this out. We should fix i=
t so that it's consistent.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><d=
iv>--Chad<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On=
Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:36 PM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-h=
elp AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=
=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</=
a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">The link=
is:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica=
,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><a href=3D"http=
://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
iki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">bes=
t regards</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (<=
a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker.charles=
@gmail.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</div=
><div><br></div><div>Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial=
? If so, I'm not sure what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a=
link to the tutorial you're referring to?<br></div><div><br></div><div=
>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailt=
o:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=
=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</=
a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-hel=
p AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"=
>In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6=C2=A0 =
R102, R201 and R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is place=
d where R201 was before.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I have other problems - fx=
with lines created in PCB - but I would take one example to see if the con=
fusion is my problem.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM To=
rben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friis=
tf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge">I deleted all files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2=
pcb once - and it worked.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 =
PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blan=
k">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT c=
om" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda=
-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div>Hi Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>The second time you run gsch2pcb i=
t looks at the differences. The first time it may not have picked up all of=
the elements due to footprint name errors. The second time (and all subseq=
uent times) you run it, it produces board.<i>new</i>.pcb, which contains th=
e new elements, so that it doesn't overwrite your original file. To get=
them into the layout, you have to do as it says: open the layout then go t=
o the file menu, select "load layout data to paste buffer", and s=
elect board.new.pcb. Then you can paste them into the layout.<br></div><div=
><br></div><div>Alternatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb =
yet, you can delete board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Also, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All=
Elements, as sometimes the elements will overlap when they're brought =
into the layout.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>--Chad<br><=
/div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">O=
n Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda=
-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=
=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</=
a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:large">Hi,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,=
helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">It is rather confusing. When I run gs=
ch2pcb project I get:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
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----------------------------------<br>Done processing.=C2=A0 Work performed=
:<br>5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.<br><br>Next =
steps:<br>1.=C2=A0 Run pcb on your file board.pcb.<br>2.=C2=A0 From within =
PCB, select "File -> Load layout data to paste buffer"<br>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and select board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into yo=
ur existing layout.<br>3.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "File -> Lo=
ad netlist file" and select <br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://b=
oard.net" target=3D"_blank">board.net</a> to load the updated netlist.<br><=
br>4.=C2=A0 From within PCB, enter<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 to update the pin names of all footprints.</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,san=
s-serif;font-size:large">First it does not tally with the description given=
in the tutorial - I am using the one that comes with Ubuntu.</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I =
get only the transistor and the resistor on the screen with a yellow line l=
eading nowhere. Should'nt I get both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow =
the instructions above I add the one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both=
one.sch and two.sch appear to be OK.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:large">As I say, I am confused.</div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">best e=
rgards<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,hel=
vetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div></div></div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:4=
6 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank=
">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">It worked. <br></div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018=
at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help@=
delorie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>>=
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>Welcome to the community!=
Please feel free to post any questions you may have.<br></div><div><br></d=
iv><div>I think the issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element,=
so, it's not generating it the way the tutorial thinks it should. <br>=
</div><div><br></div><div>Looking through the pcb element footprints, there=
is, however, a footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will se=
rve for your purposes. Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" -->=
"CONNECTOR 1 2" and see if that fixes it.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br=
></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:ge=
da-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,<br>This is my firs=
t attempt at using geda-help.<br><br>When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial =
I use:<br><br>gsch2pcb project<br><br>I get the following message in the lo=
g:<br><br>CONN202: can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 (=
value=3Dunknown).<br>So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.<br><br>Th=
e attributes of the connector are.<br><br>device: BNC<br>footprint: CONNECT=
OR 2 1<br>refdes: CONN202<br><br>I think that I have followed the instructi=
ons, so what is wrong?<br>best regards<br>torben<br></div></div></div>
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