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Hi Chad,
OK. I will try again.
torben
On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:45 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> Torben-
>
> The square terminal generally indicates "pin 1" of the device. This is
> done so that when you're installing the components, you know the proper
> orientation. For some parts this is important, like for the opamps in the
> design. For other parts, like the resistors, it doesn't matter, they can go
> either way.
>
> Part of the fun of building a circuit board is figuring out where to place
> the components and how to connect them, kind of like a puzzle, but with no
> one answer. You can place them however you like. Many people use a strategy
> where you try to place the parts such that you minimize the lengths of the
> traces connecting those parts. You could also arrange them in a pattern to
> resemble a bug, or a star, or anything you find aesthetically pleasing. In
> most cases (i.e. not radio frequency or high speed (>10s of MHz) digital
> electronics), the exact placement of parts doesn't matter.
>
> --Chad
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 9:32 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chad,
>> Should I place R101, R102 and R103 together? And if I do, should'nt R103
>> have round terminal points at both ends? I assume that the square ones are
>> to be connected to the GND.
>> I am not an electronics expert.
>> torben
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Torben-
>>>
>>> Okay, I see what you're referring to. This is a bug in the tutorial. It
>>> looks to me like the first set of figures were created with an older
>>> version of PCB and the other set with a newer one and a later date. What
>>> likely happened is that the same circuit was used, but the schematic was
>>> redrawn when the new figures were added, and because the parts would have
>>> been arranged differently, the reference designators ended up changing. The
>>> underlying circuit appears to be the same, just the names of the parts have
>>> been swapped. You can even see that the footprint of R101 is different.
>>>
>>> Ultimately, the rat lines on your pcb should be consistent with the
>>> connections you made in the schematic. So, as long as you connect your
>>> parts accordingly, you should be fine.
>>>
>>> Thanks for pointing this out. We should fix it so that it's consistent.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --Chad
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:36 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>> The link is:
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial
>>>> best regards
>>>> torben
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Torben-
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm not
>>>>> sure what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a link to the tutorial
>>>>> you're referring to?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>>> I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.
>>>>>> In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6
>>>>>> R102, R201 and R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is
>>>>>> placed where R201 was before.
>>>>>> I have other problems - fx with lines created in PCB - but I would
>>>>>> take one example to see if the confusion is my problem.
>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Chad,
>>>>>>> I deleted all files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran
>>>>>>> gsch2pcb once - and it worked.
>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (
>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <
>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Torben-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences. The
>>>>>>>> first time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to footprint
>>>>>>>> name errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run it, it
>>>>>>>> produces board.*new*.pcb, which contains the new elements, so that
>>>>>>>> it doesn't overwrite your original file. To get them into the layout, you
>>>>>>>> have to do as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, select
>>>>>>>> "load layout data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb. Then you can
>>>>>>>> paste them into the layout.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alternatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you can
>>>>>>>> delete board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements, as
>>>>>>>> sometimes the elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Done processing. Work performed:
>>>>>>>>> 5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Next steps:
>>>>>>>>> 1. Run pcb on your file board.pcb.
>>>>>>>>> 2. From within PCB, select "File -> Load layout data to paste
>>>>>>>>> buffer"
>>>>>>>>> and select board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into your
>>>>>>>>> existing layout.
>>>>>>>>> 3. From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and select
>>>>>>>>> board.net to load the updated netlist.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 4. From within PCB, enter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to update the pin names of all footprints.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First it does not tally with the description given in the tutorial
>>>>>>>>> - I am using the one that comes with Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and the
>>>>>>>>> resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt I get
>>>>>>>>> both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add the
>>>>>>>>> one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear to be
>>>>>>>>> OK.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I say, I am confused.
>>>>>>>>> best ergards
>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It worked.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (
>>>>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <
>>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Torben-
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post any questions
>>>>>>>>>>> you may have.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think the issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4
>>>>>>>>>>> element, so, it's not generating it the way the tutorial thinks it should.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is, however, a
>>>>>>>>>>> footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purposes.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see if that
>>>>>>>>>>> fixes it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my first attempt at using geda-help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> gsch2pcb project
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I get the following message in the log:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> CONN202: can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1
>>>>>>>>>>>> (value=unknown).
>>>>>>>>>>>> So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The attributes of the connector are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> device: BNC
>>>>>>>>>>>> footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1
>>>>>>>>>>>> refdes: CONN202
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">OK. I =
will try again.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:45 PM Chad Park=
er (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a=
>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>]=
<<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>>=
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>The square terminal generall=
y indicates "pin 1" of the device. This is done so that when you&=
#39;re installing the components, you know the proper orientation. For some=
parts this is important, like for the opamps in the design. For other part=
s, like the resistors, it doesn't matter, they can go either way.<br></=
div><div><br></div><div>Part of the fun of building a circuit board is figu=
ring out where to place the components and how to connect them, kind of lik=
e a puzzle, but with no one answer. You can place them however you like. Ma=
ny people use a strategy where you try to place the parts such that you min=
imize the lengths of the traces connecting those parts. You could also arra=
nge them in a pattern to resemble a bug, or a star, or anything you find ae=
sthetically pleasing. In most cases (i.e. not radio frequency or high speed=
(>10s of MHz) digital electronics), the exact placement of parts doesn&=
#39;t matter.<br></div><div><br></div><div>--Chad<br></div><div><br></div><=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at=
9:32 AM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blan=
k">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT d=
elorie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-=
size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Should I place R101, R102 and =
R103 together? And if I do, should'nt R103 have round terminal points a=
t both ends? I assume that the square ones are to be connected to the GND.<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif;font-size:large">I am not an electronics expert.<br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker.ch=
arles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-h=
elp AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>Okay,=
I see what you're referring to. This is a bug in the tutorial. It look=
s to me like the first set of figures were created with an older version of=
PCB and the other set with a newer one and a later date. What likely happe=
ned is that the same circuit was used, but the schematic was redrawn when t=
he new figures were added, and because the parts would have been arranged d=
ifferently, the reference designators ended up changing. The underlying cir=
cuit appears to be the same, just the names of the parts have been swapped.=
You can even see that the footprint of R101 is different.</div><div><br></=
div><div>Ultimately, the rat lines on your pcb should be consistent with th=
e connections you made in the schematic. So, as long as you connect your pa=
rts accordingly, you should be fine.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks fo=
r pointing this out. We should fix it so that it's consistent.<br></div=
><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:36 PM Torben Fri=
is (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT co=
m</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda=
-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Cha=
d,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,s=
ans-serif;font-size:large">The link is:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
;font-size:large"><a href=3D"http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tut=
orial" target=3D"_blank">http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutoria=
l</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large">best regards</div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<b=
r></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2=
, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com"=
target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:ged=
a-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com<=
/a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>Are you still working=
through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm not sure what you mean by=
page 6. Can you please provide a link to the tutorial you're referring=
to?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div></div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 =
PM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">fri=
istf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D=
"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie=
.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial=
,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tut=
orial.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:large">In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are pla=
ced together. On page 6=C2=A0 R102, R201 and R103 are placed together in th=
e same place and R102 is placed where R201 was before.</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:lar=
ge">I have other problems - fx with lines created in PCB - but I would take=
one example to see if the confusion is my problem.</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"=
>torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On S=
at, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:larg=
e">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I deleted all files except Project, one=
.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2pcb once - and it worked.</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:la=
rge">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker.char=
les AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=
=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</=
a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-hel=
p AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>The =
second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences. The first time it=
may not have picked up all of the elements due to footprint name errors. T=
he second time (and all subsequent times) you run it, it produces board.<i>=
new</i>.pcb, which contains the new elements, so that it doesn't overwr=
ite your original file. To get them into the layout, you have to do as it s=
ays: open the layout then go to the file menu, select "load layout dat=
a to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb. Then you can paste them =
into the layout.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Alternatively, if you haven&#=
39;t done any work on the pcb yet, you can delete board.pcb and board.new.p=
cb and rerun gsch2pcb.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, make sure that you ex=
ecute Select > Disperse All Elements, as sometimes the elements will ove=
rlap when they're brought into the layout.<br></div><div><br></div><div=
>Cheers,</div><div>--Chad<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (=
<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a=
>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-hel=
p AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_=
blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,</div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">It is r=
ather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get:</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large">----------------------------------<br>Done pr=
ocessing.=C2=A0 Work performed:<br>5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added =
to board.new.pcb.<br><br>Next steps:<br>1.=C2=A0 Run pcb on your file board=
.pcb.<br>2.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "File -> Load layout data=
to paste buffer"<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and select board.new.pcb to lo=
ad the new footprints into your existing layout.<br>3.=C2=A0 From within PC=
B, select "File -> Load netlist file" and select <br>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://board.net" target=3D"_blank">board.net</a> to l=
oad the updated netlist.<br><br>4.=C2=A0 From within PCB, enter<br><br>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :ExecuteFile(boar=
d.cmd)<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 to update the pin names of all footprints.=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,san=
s-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">First it does not tal=
ly with the description given in the tutorial - I am using the one that com=
es with Ubuntu.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Second=
, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and the resistor on th=
e screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt I get both one.s=
ch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add the one.sch to th=
e screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear to be OK.<br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">As I say, I am confused.</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif;font-size:large">best ergards<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br><=
/div></div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"mailto:friist=
f AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">It worked. <br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:par=
ker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via=
<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delor=
ie.com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">=
geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Torben-</div><div><br></div><=
div>Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post any questions you ma=
y have.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I think the issue is that the CONNECTO=
R is no longer an m4 element, so, it's not generating it the way the tu=
torial thinks it should. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Looking through the =
pcb element footprints, there is, however, a footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2&=
quot;. I suspect that will serve for your purposes. Please try changing &qu=
ot;CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see if that fix=
es it.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div><div><br>=
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis =
(<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</=
a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-he=
lp AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"=
_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">Hi,<br>This is my first attempt at using geda-help.<br><br>When in=
the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:<br><br>gsch2pcb project<br><br>I get =
the following message in the log:<br><br>CONN202: can't find PCB elemen=
t for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 (value=3Dunknown).<br>So device CONN202 will =
not be in the layout.<br><br>The attributes of the connector are.<br><br>de=
vice: BNC<br>footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1<br>refdes: CONN202<br><br>I think tha=
t I have followed the instructions, so what is wrong?<br>best regards<br>to=
rben<br></div></div></div>
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