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From: "Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 23:31:35 +0100
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Subject: Re: [geda-help] Tutorial
To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com
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Hi Chad,
The link is:

http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial
best regards
torben

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> Torben-
>
> Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm not
> sure what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a link to the tutorial
> you're referring to?
>
> Thanks,
> --Chad
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chad,
>> I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.
>> In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6
>> R102, R201 and R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is
>> placed where R201 was before.
>> I have other problems - fx with lines created in PCB - but I would take
>> one example to see if the confusion is my problem.
>> torben
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chad,
>>> I deleted all files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2pcb
>>> once - and it worked.
>>> torben
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Torben-
>>>>
>>>> The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences. The first
>>>> time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to footprint name
>>>> errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run it, it produces
>>>> board.*new*.pcb, which contains the new elements, so that it doesn't
>>>> overwrite your original file. To get them into the layout, you have to do
>>>> as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, select "load layout
>>>> data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb. Then you can paste them
>>>> into the layout.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you can
>>>> delete board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.
>>>>
>>>> Also, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements, as
>>>> sometimes the elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> --Chad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get:
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>>> Done processing.  Work performed:
>>>>> 5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.
>>>>>
>>>>> Next steps:
>>>>> 1.  Run pcb on your file board.pcb.
>>>>> 2.  From within PCB, select "File -> Load layout data to paste buffer"
>>>>>     and select board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into your
>>>>> existing layout.
>>>>> 3.  From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and select
>>>>>     board.net to load the updated netlist.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4.  From within PCB, enter
>>>>>
>>>>>            :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)
>>>>>
>>>>>     to update the pin names of all footprints.
>>>>>
>>>>> First it does not tally with the description given in the tutorial - I
>>>>> am using the one that comes with Ubuntu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and the
>>>>> resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt I get
>>>>> both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add the
>>>>> one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear to be
>>>>> OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I say, I am confused.
>>>>> best ergards
>>>>> torben
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It worked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Torben-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post any questions you
>>>>>>> may have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element,
>>>>>>> so, it's not generating it the way the tutorial thinks it should.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is, however, a
>>>>>>> footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purposes.
>>>>>>> Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see if that
>>>>>>> fixes it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> This is my first attempt at using geda-help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gsch2pcb project
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I get the following message in the log:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CONN202: can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1
>>>>>>>> (value=unknown).
>>>>>>>> So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The attributes of the connector are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> device: BNC
>>>>>>>> footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1
>>>>>>>> refdes: CONN202
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is wrong?
>>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">The li=
nk is:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><a href=3D"http=
://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial">http://wiki.geda-project.o=
rg/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial</a></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">best regards</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:p=
arker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mail=
to:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</=
div><div><br></div><div>Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutor=
ial? If so, I&#39;m not sure what you mean by page 6. Can you please provid=
e a link to the tutorial you&#39;re referring to?<br></div><div><br></div><=
div>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
</a>] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-h=
elp AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"=
>In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6=C2=A0 =
R102, R201 and R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is place=
d where R201 was before.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I have other problems - fx=
 with lines created in PCB - but I would take one example to see if the con=
fusion is my problem.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM To=
rben Friis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friis=
tf AT gmail DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge">I deleted all files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2=
pcb once - and it worked.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-f=
amily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 =
PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blan=
k">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT c=
om" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda=
-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div>Hi Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>The second time you run gsch2pcb i=
t looks at the differences. The first time it may not have picked up all of=
 the elements due to footprint name errors. The second time (and all subseq=
uent times) you run it, it produces board.<i>new</i>.pcb, which contains th=
e new elements, so that it doesn&#39;t overwrite your original file. To get=
 them into the layout, you have to do as it says: open the layout then go t=
o the file menu, select &quot;load layout data to paste buffer&quot;, and s=
elect board.new.pcb. Then you can paste them into the layout.<br></div><div=
><br></div><div>Alternatively, if you haven&#39;t done any work on the pcb =
yet, you can delete board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Also, make sure that you execute Select &gt; Disperse All=
 Elements, as sometimes the elements will overlap when they&#39;re brought =
into the layout.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>--Chad<br><=
/div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">O=
n Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda=
-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:large">Hi,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,=
helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">It is rather confusing. When I run gs=
ch2pcb project I get:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">=
----------------------------------<br>Done processing.=C2=A0 Work performed=
:<br>5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.<br><br>Next =
steps:<br>1.=C2=A0 Run pcb on your file board.pcb.<br>2.=C2=A0 From within =
PCB, select &quot;File -&gt; Load layout data to paste buffer&quot;<br>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and select board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into yo=
ur existing layout.<br>3.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select &quot;File -&gt; Lo=
ad netlist file&quot; and select <br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://b=
oard.net" target=3D"_blank">board.net</a> to load the updated netlist.<br><=
br>4.=C2=A0 From within PCB, enter<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 to update the pin names of all footprints.</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,san=
s-serif;font-size:large">First it does not tally with the description given=
 in the tutorial - I am using the one that comes with Ubuntu.</div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I =
get only the transistor and the resistor on the screen with a yellow line l=
eading nowhere. Should&#39;nt I get both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow =
the instructions above I add the one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both=
 one.sch and two.sch appear to be OK.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:large">As I say, I am confused.</div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">best e=
rgards<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,hel=
vetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div></div></div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:4=
6 PM Torben Friis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank=
">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">It worked. <br></div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018=
 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help@=
delorie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>Welcome to the community!=
 Please feel free to post any questions you may have.<br></div><div><br></d=
iv><div>I think the issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element,=
 so, it&#39;s not generating it the way the tutorial thinks it should. <br>=
</div><div><br></div><div>Looking through the pcb element footprints, there=
 is, however, a footprint &quot;CONNECTOR 1 2&quot;. I suspect that will se=
rve for your purposes. Please try changing &quot;CONNECTOR 2 1&quot; --&gt;=
 &quot;CONNECTOR 1 2&quot; and see if that fixes it.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br=
></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:ge=
da-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,<br>This is my firs=
t attempt at using geda-help.<br><br>When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial =
I use:<br><br>gsch2pcb project<br><br>I get the following message in the lo=
g:<br><br>CONN202: can&#39;t find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 (=
value=3Dunknown).<br>So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.<br><br>Th=
e attributes of the connector are.<br><br>device: BNC<br>footprint: CONNECT=
OR 2 1<br>refdes: CONN202<br><br>I think that I have followed the instructi=
ons, so what is wrong?<br>best regards<br>torben<br></div></div></div>
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