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Torben-
Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm not sure
what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a link to the tutorial
you're referring to?
Thanks,
--Chad
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
> Hi Chad,
> I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.
> In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6 R102,
> R201 and R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is placed
> where R201 was before.
> I have other problems - fx with lines created in PCB - but I would take
> one example to see if the confusion is my problem.
> torben
>
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chad,
>> I deleted all files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2pcb
>> once - and it worked.
>> torben
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Torben-
>>>
>>> The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences. The first
>>> time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to footprint name
>>> errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run it, it produces
>>> board.*new*.pcb, which contains the new elements, so that it doesn't
>>> overwrite your original file. To get them into the layout, you have to do
>>> as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, select "load layout
>>> data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb. Then you can paste them
>>> into the layout.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you can
>>> delete board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.
>>>
>>> Also, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements, as
>>> sometimes the elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> --Chad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get:
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>> Done processing. Work performed:
>>>> 5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.
>>>>
>>>> Next steps:
>>>> 1. Run pcb on your file board.pcb.
>>>> 2. From within PCB, select "File -> Load layout data to paste buffer"
>>>> and select board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into your
>>>> existing layout.
>>>> 3. From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and select
>>>> board.net to load the updated netlist.
>>>>
>>>> 4. From within PCB, enter
>>>>
>>>> :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)
>>>>
>>>> to update the pin names of all footprints.
>>>>
>>>> First it does not tally with the description given in the tutorial - I
>>>> am using the one that comes with Ubuntu.
>>>>
>>>> Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and the
>>>> resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt I get
>>>> both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add the
>>>> one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear to be
>>>> OK.
>>>>
>>>> As I say, I am confused.
>>>> best ergards
>>>> torben
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It worked.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Torben-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post any questions you
>>>>>> may have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element,
>>>>>> so, it's not generating it the way the tutorial thinks it should.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is, however, a
>>>>>> footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purposes.
>>>>>> Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see if that
>>>>>> fixes it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com)
>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> This is my first attempt at using geda-help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gsch2pcb project
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I get the following message in the log:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CONN202: can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1
>>>>>>> (value=unknown).
>>>>>>> So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The attributes of the connector are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> device: BNC
>>>>>>> footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1
>>>>>>> refdes: CONN202
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is wrong?
>>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>Are you still workin=
g through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm not sure what you mean b=
y page 6. Can you please provide a link to the tutorial you're referrin=
g to?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44=
PM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a=
>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>]=
<<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>>=
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,=
sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I am confused =
by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">In the beginning R101,=
R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6=C2=A0 R102, R201 and R103 are=
placed together in the same place and R102 is placed where R201 was before=
.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:large">I have other problems - fx with lines created in =
PCB - but I would take one example to see if the confusion is my problem.</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <<a href=
=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,=
sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I deleted all =
files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2pcb once - and it wo=
rked.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetic=
a,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gm=
ail.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank=
">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Torben-</div=
><div><br></div><div>The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the diffe=
rences. The first time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to=
footprint name errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run =
it, it produces board.<i>new</i>.pcb, which contains the new elements, so t=
hat it doesn't overwrite your original file. To get them into the layou=
t, you have to do as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, sel=
ect "load layout data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb.=
Then you can paste them into the layout.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Alte=
rnatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you can delete =
board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.</div><div><br></div><div>Al=
so, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements, as someti=
mes the elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout.<br>=
</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>--Chad<br></div><div><br></div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 =
at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help=
@delorie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
;font-size:large">It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get=
:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">--------------------=
--------------<br>Done processing.=C2=A0 Work performed:<br>5 file elements=
and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.<br><br>Next steps:<br>1.=C2=A0 R=
un pcb on your file board.pcb.<br>2.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "Fi=
le -> Load layout data to paste buffer"<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and s=
elect board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into your existing layout.<b=
r>3.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file"=
and select <br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://board.net" target=3D"_=
blank">board.net</a> to load the updated netlist.<br><br>4.=C2=A0 From with=
in PCB, enter<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 to update the pin =
names of all footprints.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:larg=
e">First it does not tally with the description given in the tutorial - I a=
m using the one that comes with Ubuntu.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif=
;font-size:large">Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transisto=
r and the resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should=
'nt I get both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above=
I add the one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch a=
ppear to be OK.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">As=
I say, I am confused.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">best ergards<br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font=
-size:large">torben<br></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <=
<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a=
>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:large">It worked. <br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Park=
er (<a href=3D"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker.ch=
arles AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delo=
rie.com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi To=
rben-</div><div><br></div><div>Welcome to the community! Please feel free t=
o post any questions you may have.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I think the=
issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element, so, it's not g=
enerating it the way the tutorial thinks it should. <br></div><div><br></di=
v><div>Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is, however, a foo=
tprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purpos=
es. Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 =
2" and see if that fixes it.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><di=
v>--Chad<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 20=
18 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"=
_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-h=
elp AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,<br>This is my first attempt at using =
geda-help.<br><br>When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:<br><br>gsch2=
pcb project<br><br>I get the following message in the log:<br><br>CONN202: =
can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 (value=3Dunknown).<b=
r>So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.<br><br>The attributes of the=
connector are.<br><br>device: BNC<br>footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1<br>refdes: C=
ONN202<br><br>I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is wro=
ng?<br>best regards<br>torben<br></div></div></div>
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