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Hi Chad,
I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.
In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6 R102,
R201 and R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is placed
where R201 was before.
I have other problems - fx with lines created in PCB - but I would take one
example to see if the confusion is my problem.
torben
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
> Hi Chad,
> I deleted all files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2pcb
> once - and it worked.
> torben
>
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Torben-
>>
>> The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences. The first
>> time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to footprint name
>> errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run it, it produces
>> board.*new*.pcb, which contains the new elements, so that it doesn't
>> overwrite your original file. To get them into the layout, you have to do
>> as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, select "load layout
>> data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb. Then you can paste them
>> into the layout.
>>
>> Alternatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you can
>> delete board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.
>>
>> Also, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements, as
>> sometimes the elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> --Chad
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get:
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------
>>> Done processing. Work performed:
>>> 5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.
>>>
>>> Next steps:
>>> 1. Run pcb on your file board.pcb.
>>> 2. From within PCB, select "File -> Load layout data to paste buffer"
>>> and select board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into your
>>> existing layout.
>>> 3. From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and select
>>> board.net to load the updated netlist.
>>>
>>> 4. From within PCB, enter
>>>
>>> :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)
>>>
>>> to update the pin names of all footprints.
>>>
>>> First it does not tally with the description given in the tutorial - I
>>> am using the one that comes with Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and the
>>> resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt I get
>>> both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add the
>>> one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear to be
>>> OK.
>>>
>>> As I say, I am confused.
>>> best ergards
>>> torben
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It worked.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com)
>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Torben-
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post any questions you
>>>>> may have.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element,
>>>>> so, it's not generating it the way the tutorial thinks it should.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is, however, a
>>>>> footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purposes.
>>>>> Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see if that
>>>>> fixes it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> --Chad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> This is my first attempt at using geda-help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> gsch2pcb project
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I get the following message in the log:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CONN202: can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1
>>>>>> (value=unknown).
>>>>>> So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The attributes of the connector are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> device: BNC
>>>>>> footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1
>>>>>> refdes: CONN202
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is wrong?
>>>>>> best regards
>>>>>> torben
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I am c=
onfused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">In the beginni=
ng R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6=C2=A0 R102, R201 and =
R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is placed where R201 wa=
s before.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I have other problems - fx with lines cre=
ated in PCB - but I would take one example to see if the confusion is my pr=
oblem.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <=
<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:large">Hi Chad,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I deleted all files except =
Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2pcb once - and it worked.</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;=
font-size:large">torben<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mailto=
:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>) =
[via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT d=
elorie.com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Torben-</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences. The f=
irst time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to footprint na=
me errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run it, it produc=
es board.<i>new</i>.pcb, which contains the new elements, so that it doesn&=
#39;t overwrite your original file. To get them into the layout, you have t=
o do as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, select "loa=
d layout data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb. Then you can=
paste them into the layout.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Alternatively, if=
you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you can delete board.pcb and=
board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, make sure=
that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements, as sometimes the eleme=
nts will overlap when they're brought into the layout.<br></div><div><b=
r></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>--Chad<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM To=
rben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf@=
gmail.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com"=
target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi,</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:la=
rge">It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get:</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font=
-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:ar=
ial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">---------------------------------=
-<br>Done processing.=C2=A0 Work performed:<br>5 file elements and 0 m4 ele=
ments added to board.new.pcb.<br><br>Next steps:<br>1.=C2=A0 Run pcb on you=
r file board.pcb.<br>2.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "File -> Load=
layout data to paste buffer"<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and select board.n=
ew.pcb to load the new footprints into your existing layout.<br>3.=C2=A0 Fr=
om within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and select <=
br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://board.net" target=3D"_blank">board.=
net</a> to load the updated netlist.<br><br>4.=C2=A0 From within PCB, enter=
<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :Execu=
teFile(board.cmd)<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 to update the pin names of all =
footprints.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">First it d=
oes not tally with the description given in the tutorial - I am using the o=
ne that comes with Ubuntu.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:la=
rge">Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and the res=
istor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt I get=
both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add the on=
e.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear to be O=
K.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">As I say, I am =
confused.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helv=
etica,sans-serif;font-size:large">best ergards<br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">=
torben<br></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>> wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-ser=
if;font-size:large">It worked. <br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (<a href=3D=
"mailto:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT co=
m</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda=
-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=
=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Torben-</div><div=
><br></div><div>Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post any ques=
tions you may have.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I think the issue is that =
the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element, so, it's not generating it th=
e way the tutorial thinks it should. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Looking =
through the pcb element footprints, there is, however, a footprint "CO=
NNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purposes. Please try =
changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see=
if that fixes it.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM T=
orben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">friistf=
@gmail.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] <<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-seri=
f;font-size:large">Hi,<br>This is my first attempt at using geda-help.<br><=
br>When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:<br><br>gsch2pcb project<br>=
<br>I get the following message in the log:<br><br>CONN202: can't find =
PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 (value=3Dunknown).<br>So device CON=
N202 will not be in the layout.<br><br>The attributes of the connector are.=
<br><br>device: BNC<br>footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1<br>refdes: CONN202<br><br>I=
think that I have followed the instructions, so what is wrong?<br>best reg=
ards<br>torben<br></div></div></div>
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