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From:	Mike Bushroe <mbushroe AT gmail DOT com>
Date:	Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:23:28 -0700
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Subject:	[geda-help] Still Stuck, or should I say Shorted
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 I finally got a new verisson of just the power section. Two full-wave
block diodes, 4 voltage regulators, 8 different voltage output power forms
without any cutting and pasting from the previous version. Used the GUI
sch2pcb and looked at the message log and almost every net was shorted to
almost every other net! Almost as bad as the full circuit was. So at least
if I can fix it here maybe there won't be any other shorts. Yeah, famous
last words.

 So I made local copies of the voltage regulators and added net definitions
for the pin2 of each device. No joy, so I disconnect every voltage
regulator from the circuit and run it again. Still all shorted, so I add
pinlabel names to each output symbol to make sure they aren't doing it. No
help. So I disconnect all of them too and run it again, still all shorts. I
look at the netlist and it is short and sweet and no obvious shorts. So I
made a temporary copy and deleted the 7805's and still no luck. It looked
like every place that lines crossed they were shorting even if there was no
yellow dot. So I deleted every line that overlapped. And still as many
shorts. I deleted every single trace, every last bit of blue, and finally
no shorts! I slowly add line again and very soon shorts appear again.

   After cutting back it looks like a mere 3 lines between the two
full-wave diode blocks creates shorts. I looked at the attribute list with
show invisible on and I see no hidden net assignments. I open it up in
gedit and also see no hidden net assignments. The only thing that is there
are pin labels. Am I going to have to make a local copy of *every* symbol
and delete all the pinlabels in order to make connections without shorts?
Am I doing something wrong that is causing everything turning into a single
bus bar?

Mike

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"Creativity is intelligence having fun." =E2=80=94 Albert Einstein

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>=C2=A0I finally got a new verisson of just =
the power section. Two full-wave block diodes, 4 voltage regulators, 8 diff=
erent voltage output power forms without any cutting and pasting from the p=
revious version. Used the GUI sch2pcb and looked at the message log and alm=
ost every net was shorted to almost every other net! Almost as bad as the f=
ull circuit was. So at least if I can fix it here maybe there won&#39;t be =
any other shorts. Yeah, famous last words.<br><br></div>=C2=A0So I made loc=
al copies of the voltage regulators and added net definitions for the pin2 =
of each device. No joy, so I disconnect every voltage regulator from the ci=
rcuit and run it again. Still all shorted, so I add pinlabel names to each =
output symbol to make sure they aren&#39;t doing it. No help. So I disconne=
ct all of them too and run it again, still all shorts. I look at the netlis=
t and it is short and sweet and no obvious shorts. So I made a temporary co=
py and deleted the 7805&#39;s and still no luck. It looked like every place=
 that lines crossed they were shorting even if there was no yellow dot. So =
I deleted every line that overlapped. And still as many shorts. I deleted e=
very single trace, every last bit of blue, and finally no shorts! I slowly =
add line again and very soon shorts appear again. <br><br></div>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 After cutting back it looks like a mere 3 lines between the two full-wa=
ve diode blocks creates shorts. I looked at the attribute list with show in=
visible on and I see no hidden net assignments. I open it up in gedit and a=
lso see no hidden net assignments. The only thing that is there are pin lab=
els. Am I going to have to make a local copy of <i>every</i> symbol and del=
ete all the pinlabels in order to make connections without shorts? Am I doi=
ng something wrong that is causing everything turning into a single bus bar=
?<br><br></div>Mike<br clear=3D"all"><div><div><div><div><div><br>-- <br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family:ar=
ial,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">&quot;Creativity is intelligence having fun.=
&quot; =E2=80=94 Albert Einstein</span></div></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div>

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