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From: Stuart Brorson <sdb AT cloud9 DOT net>
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Subject: Re: [geda-help] newbie: automatic way to find a model
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The automated way to find SPICE models is to use Google.  A very quick
search on "2N2222 spice model" turns up lots of hits, including this
one:

http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/2N2222A.LIB.TXT

Have fun with electronics,

Stuart



On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Jack Andrews wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My interest is
> - bread-boarding some hardware ideas
> - saving time messing with hardware by using simulation
>
> So I ended up looking at [ng]spice and gschem
>
> This is my first day and I'm quite pleased with my progress - all credit
> due to gEDA.
>
> I drew up the start of a current mirror in gschem and
>
> $ gnetlist -v -g spice-sdb current-mirror   #see current mirror in shell
> script below
>
> and the body of the output was:
>
> B2 5 7 0V
> R4 1 unconnected_pin-1 7 5K
> B1 7 6 12V
> Q1 2 2 6 unknown
> Q2 4 2 6 unknown
> R3 3 5 5K
> R2 4 3 10K
> R1 2 1 10K
> .end
>
> In my schematic, I specified Q{1,2} as 2N2222 - but to run ngspice, I seem
> to need to find the model for 2N2222.  I'm sure the question has been asked
> before:
>
>  . is there an automated way to find the model for 2N2222?
>
> If this is currently done manually, I'd like to contribute some work.  (I'm
> in software by day).
>
> Also, note the R4 VARIABLE_RESISTOR is being used as a variable resistor
> (not a potentiometer) so there is a floating node.  What is the best way of
> drawing what I want?  And then, how do I get spice to vary the resistor in
> 33 steps?  Maybe use a VCR voltage-controlled-resistor and vary the voltage
> control?  Starting to get vague now...
>
> I'm very encouraged by gschem and looking forward to spending some time
> learning spice and the gEDA.
>
> current-mirror appended below.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Jack
>
> v 20130925 2
> C 40000 40000 0 0 0 title-B.sym
> C 50000 44500 1 90 0 resistor-1.sym
> {
> T 49600 44800 5 10 0 0 90 0 1
> device=RESISTOR
> T 49700 44700 5 10 1 1 90 0 1
> refdes=R1
> T 50300 44600 5 10 1 1 90 0 1
> value=10K
> }
> C 51200 44500 1 90 0 resistor-1.sym
> {
> T 50800 44800 5 10 0 0 90 0 1
> device=RESISTOR
> T 50900 44700 5 10 1 1 90 0 1
> refdes=R2
> T 51400 44700 5 10 1 1 90 0 1
> value=10K
> }
> C 51200 45400 1 90 0 resistor-1.sym
> {
> T 50800 45700 5 10 0 0 90 0 1
> device=RESISTOR
> T 50900 45600 5 10 1 1 90 0 1
> refdes=R3
> T 51400 45600 5 10 1 1 90 0 1
> value=5K
> }
> C 50500 43500 1 0 0 2N2222-1.sym
> {
> T 51400 44200 5 10 0 0 0 0 1
> device=2N2222
> T 51400 44000 5 10 1 1 0 0 1
> refdes=Q2
> }
> C 50500 43500 1 0 1 2N2222-1.sym
> {
> T 49600 44200 5 10 0 0 0 6 1
> device=2N2222
> T 49600 44000 5 10 1 1 0 6 1
> refdes=Q1
> }
> N 49900 44500 50500 44500 4
> N 50500 44500 50500 44000 4
> N 48400 43500 51100 43500 4
> N 48400 43500 48400 44800 4
> C 48200 45500 1 270 0 battery-1.sym
> {
> T 49100 45200 5 10 0 0 270 0 1
> device=BATTERY
> T 49500 45200 5 10 0 0 270 0 1
> symversion=0.1
> T 47900 45000 5 10 1 1 0 0 1
> value=12V
> T 47900 45300 5 10 1 1 0 0 1
> refdes=B1
> }
> C 50000 45400 1 90 0 resistor-variable-1.sym
> {
> T 49100 46200 5 10 0 0 90 0 1
> device=VARIABLE_RESISTOR
> T 49400 45600 5 10 1 1 0 0 1
> value=5K
> T 49600 46000 5 10 1 1 90 0 1
> refdes=R4
> }
> N 48400 45500 48400 46900 4
> N 48400 45900 49400 45900 4
> N 51100 46900 51100 46300 4
> N 50000 46900 48400 46900 4
> C 50700 46700 1 0 1 battery-1.sym
> {
> T 50400 47600 5 10 0 0 0 6 1
> device=BATTERY
> T 50600 46500 5 10 1 1 0 6 1
> refdes=B2
> T 50400 48000 5 10 0 0 0 6 1
> symversion=0.1
> T 50300 46500 5 10 1 1 0 6 1
> value=0V
> }
> N 51100 46900 50700 46900 4
>

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