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Hi,

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 7:50:31 PM UTC-5, Rod Pemberton wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:23:44 -0400, Juan Manuel Guerrero
> <juan DOT guerrero AT spam DOT sux> wrote:
> 
> > [...] worked flawlessly on NTVDM [...]
> 
> Rugxulo, do you know if NTVDM was patched to work as a
> standalone DOS?

Uh, of course not. By whom? I don't even think it's possible.
At least, there aren't nearly enough skilled and interested
people for something like that. And it wouldn't be redistributable
anyways.

> What about NTVDM as a console window perhaps with Japheth's
> DPMI host (HDPMI), DOS extender (HXRT), and GUI/console app
> extensions (HXGUI)?

I doubt it. I guess nothing's impossible, but this comes pretty
close! I've heard of alternate DPMI servers that could run
Win 3.x, and I've heard of slimmed Win9x (no GUI?) installs.
But anything from NT is probably much harder.

> If so, NTVDM could be a solution for some DOS users.  It's too
> bad Japheth seems to have stopped working on such things.  There
> are also those guys Xeno86 and Tihiy who worked on the KernelEx
> stuff.

I don't even have NTVDM anymore. And I don't care to try Win10
previews. Perhaps it works for someone, but it seems like it
hasn't been worth anything since after XP. I'd rather use
something else (native, DOSEMU, QEMU, VirtualBox).

> Did someone archive Japheth's site?  It seems to only be
> available via the Wayback Archive.

No, because freeware != free/libre. We're lucky that WayBack
still has a copy. It was a cool hack but nothing to rely
too heavily on. If you demand some form of Windows compatibility,
dual boot ReactOS.

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